There is no reason to trade Ullmark. A big benefit of Rask coming in was that is afforded BOS the ability to send Swayman down to the minors. Trading Ullmark negates that. And then what do you do next season? You're looking for another starter as Rask could be officially done after this season. Just seems shortsighted to me.

What’s chances on rask signing another year after this season? Im betting it lies with Bergeron, if Patrice comes back I’m willing to bet rask would make one more full season run, and if rask comes back why not let swayman run with him for full year as backup or contesting rask for starter. That puts us into 23-24 season. That’s swayman’s contract negotiations, hopefully full starter by then and all we need is decent backup, gets us through the god awful folingo and Moore deals, along with haula, smith, nosek, Clifton deals( which in my opinion are all decent deals) so not concerned with them as much but gives Bos alot of cap and roster space to retool and reasses which direction we need to head( full rebuild) or retool on the fly

O and gets Reilly and forbort within a year of expiring, a lot easier to trade them away if needed with minimum price to move

so you think that Ullmark, who is having the best season of his carrer, at a reasonable contract, has the same value as Koskinen, a mediocre goaltender, overpaid, not even NHL caliber? biggest bs I,ve seen on here so far

God no, koskinen is absolute disgrace of a goalie, but he expires at the end of this year so that gets us out of Ullmark contract quickly that’s all I was going for with this. Along with actual chance that EDM would definitely take this deal as you said Ullmark is on decent contract and playing well, especially when you take into account the division he’s playing against vs the division of EDM, plenty well enough to get EDM through playoffs if they add some decent D in front of him. As for kosk give him the easiest match ups we can for rest of year, hope he can pull out a win against bottom teams and lean on rask for tough match ups and playoffs,

From an oilers point of view it’s a bit more complicated than just moving kosk out and Ullmark in. I do understand more would be involved but the issue for Edmonton has more to do with smith being under contract for next year and skinner isn’t waiver exempt so moving kosk really doesn’t solve anything other than making the cap work for just this year.

Isn’t skinner and kono both waiver exempt? I know it leaves you with smith, and I would personally pay say, Arizona or someone like that, a draft pick to take on smith or even buy him out, at 2 million and 2 years buyout would be pretty minimal and keep skinner around when he’s healthy but to be 100% honest I don’t really follow oilers so this could all be wrong.

I think the idea and notion is that Swayman should be getting more NHL time vs spending the rest of the year in the minors. You can't offer him ore NHL time with Rask and Ullmark between the pipes right now. We just burned another year of Swaymans contract so at the end of next year we need to resign him as an RFA. So the Bruins either need to believe he can take over (which many did when they parted ways with Vladar) or move on from him. Goalie is a fickle position and can be a position where confidence plays a larger role. The sample size is small, however he does boast a 15-9-2 record with a GAA of 1.82 and SV% 928 at the NHL level. He needs to get more ice time in.

There are already rumours that Rask may also sign for 1 more year. If that holds true you effectively lose a year and a half of NHL development for Swayman and you then need to resign him not entirely knowing what you are going to get.

Its a strange spot to be in for the Bruins - but sure Ullmark may be having his best career year from a win perspective, but his SV % is not a career best at the moment which is often a good indicator of how well a goalie is doing. If your team is winning games 5-4, you rack up wins but doesn't mean your goalie is good. To be honest Ullmark has been some what inconsistent and I do fear when the playoffs roll around his composure and the fact he makes at least 1 really bone headed move every other game, could come back to haunt the B's

Now rask has played 2 games but if he plays maybe 500 or less then i dont think we should even consider trading him as ullmark has been the better of the 2

I agree, I just think it would be worth getting out of Ullmark and giving swayman next year to learn with rask and prove whether or not he is nhl starter ready

If there's a perception of too many goalies in Beantown and a line-up hole at #1/2LD &/or #2C, why take back another G-Man (part-time/shaky G-Man @ that)?

I to would like to see rask play more, but I’m also not really concerned with rask, we know what he is and he will atleast be a good shadow of his old self no matter what. And we can’t read to much into rask, first game was excellent and 2nd game we definitely hung him out to dry against one of the most relentless teams in the league this year

Doesn't make sense to move on from Ullmark from a BOS perspective since he's having a career year, let alone he just negates any trade in the first 2 seasons of his contract. And if he's being moved to EDM Nuge should be the piece coming back

If you can work up deal with a team that needs a goalie and has a 1-2LD or 2C then ya that would be ideal, this was just a quick easy trade that doesn’t invoke a lot of pieces and both clubs go away satisfied, obviously last thing we need is an old failing goalie, but it opens a door next year for swayman.

If you want to get 2C involved, I mean I would love Hopkins, I mean Hopkins hall reunion 2 line BOS come on for sure but chances of getting him out of EDM rare at best, team friendly contract, lifetime in EDM along with consistent lately, doubtful and or exspensive

Possible San Jose, work something up for hertl, they are def in need of goalie but with already 3+ nhl goalies they will have to move one at a cost to them, and doubtful Ullmark is really enticing enough with the amount of other offers they will get for him.

Same for Vancouver as SJS, I mean give us J.T Miller but again other offers likely force out the bruins

Any other too 2C that’s gunna be the case, possibly use Ullmark as sweetener in trade for sure, but longer bruins wait the more doors close, most of these teams are going to want high draft picks and top talent prospects in return as they are yeas out of playoff where as EDM window is now with few pieces but again if you can come up with Ullmark trade that lands us a need I’m all for hearing it

Definitely could make sense, swayman/rask is better option next year IMO see hobo reply



I do understand what your saying on a good year but good years also provide good trade value, especially on a guy we really don’t need. swayman has already proved he can be as good if not better then Ullmark so why not give him the reins atleast to backup and challenge for starter.

As far as him squashing a trade, another reason I chose EDM any goalie would definitely be willing to consider a trade there with the firepower and cup potential. Pair that along with BOS telling him he’s not going to be a starter and gunna have to compete with rask and swayman next year for even a chance in the nhl or EDM pretty much guaranteed starter for years. I think he would be willing to go

And Hopkins, I’m down let’s make it happen but I’m pretty sure your not gunna like what it would cost to get him out of there, see above 👆

You're betting on Rask coming back? LOL thats not something you should base your decision on why you're trading Ullmark. Nonetheless, Ullmark can't be moved until year 3 of his contract anyway so forget the bet. It also sets a bad look on BOS trading away guys the 1st year they signed them in FA. Doubt anyone would want to sign there after seeing that

Edit: Ullmark's been putting up better numbers than Swayman anyway so there goes your justification

First off Ullmark: .915 SV% and 2.55 GAA on the season and swayman: .918 SV% and 2.26 GAA on the season so where your getting Ullmark had better numbers is beyond me, either your illiterate or just straight up stupid, and if you read the description on the trade it literally says “ This is all dependent on rask coming back for one more year” which obviously neither of us know but is a conversation that sween can easily have, so try again burnout, as for trading away in first year of contract name another time that has happened???? I’ll wait…….. k thought so, count it as anomaly/ uncertain future and a business decision and move on :-( LOL

Sorry if I’m mean I have had way to much whiskey tonight, but please continue this discussion with me. I am legitimately interested in everyone’s thoughts

Ps would it make you happier to see Ullmark, debrusk and 1st rounder to SJS for hertl? Don’t think it’s enough personally but maybe SJS fan can put in their 2 cents,

Or I mean I would love to get Hopkins for Ullmark, debrusk, 1st and idk 2-3 draft pick but honestly again can’t see that being enough

Or I’d even be willing to go with Dvorak from MTL, they could use a goalie but with price future in the air and the already massive cap hit they have in the G department you think they would buy into a teade similar to hertl? Doubtful, by all means if you have better idea I’d love to hear it

Before the WSH game he had better stats than Swayman. Second, he has more wins than Swayman and at the end of the day that's what's important.

And exactly, no one in the history of signing a multi year contract in FA has been traded away in the first year of their contract. LET ALONE HE HAS A NMC, so either way there is no way he's able to be moved until year 3 of his contract. Don't you know how contract clauses work? or are you just illiterate/stupid?

I’m not saying Ullmark is a bad goalie, he’s really good, been mostly consistent for us and think he will only get better playing with rask. And if we keep him it’s definitely not the worst position to be in. This was just a discussion on do we keep him and limit swayman nhl exposure this year and good possibility of next year? Then he’s up for contract but with only handful of nhl games how do we know what he’s fully capable of? Or trade him and give sway some good nhl time and really see what he’s going to be in the future?

Definitely not unheard of to sign and trade someone in the same year, definitely not a common practice but can happen.

NMC can be waived, they are all the time. Would he waive it to go to Arizona probably not a chance but Edmonton very possible