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Highly Debated Deal

Créé par: TheTradeIs1For1
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 20 janv. 2022
Publié: 21 janv. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I know Chiarot is not liked by many and a lot of stats point to him not being that good but if you ask the question - would you rather Chiarot or Dermott/Liljegren? The answer is definitely Chiarot because he can eat up more minutes and punish the opposition in those minutes.
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Chiarot, Ben (1 750 000 $ retained)
  2. Toffoli, Tyler
MTL
  1. Holmberg, Pontus
  2. Kerfoot, Alexander
  3. Ritchie, Nick
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
2024 3rd round pick becomes a 2022 1st round pick if the leafs advance to the Stanley Cup Finals
2.
TOR
  1. Larsson, Johan (700 000 $ retained)
  2. Lyubushkin, Ilya (675 000 $ retained)
ARI
  1. Dermott, Travis
  2. Miller, Joe [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
2023
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
2024
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $76 719 783 $0 $0 $4 780 217 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
950 000 $950 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 645 000 $1 645 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
0 $0 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
0 $0 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
894 167 $894 167 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
675 000 $675 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 2
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
863 333 $863 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
725 000 $725 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
G
UFA - 1

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21 janv. 2022 à 7 h 43
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Chiarot would be a terrible fit
21 janv. 2022 à 8 h 11
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Habs decline. Toffoli is without question worth a 1st plus. And chiarot by all reports is also a 1st somehow….
Kerfoot, Ritchie and that propsect are worthless to us. They are not bad players but they do nothing for us for the direction we want to go in
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21 janv. 2022 à 8 h 35
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nick ritchie would be a better option than Chariot. the only thing Chariot punishes is the goalie and the fact that he plays a lot is a bad thing.
Also if the leafs are spending 1sts and other decent pieces they are gonna get someone better than toffoli
21 janv. 2022 à 10 h 13
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Quoting: mauston_atthews
Chiarot would be a terrible fit


Yeah, he doesn't fit their soft, first round exit system at all. Agreed.
21 janv. 2022 à 10 h 14
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Quoting: Lochness1202
Habs decline. Toffoli is without question worth a 1st plus. And chiarot by all reports is also a 1st somehow….
Kerfoot, Ritchie and that propsect are worthless to us. They are not bad players but they do nothing for us for the direction we want to go in


Ritchie is a cap dump, i believe Kerfoot is suppose to be as well, but he is one of their few playoff style players. Seems counter productive including him.
21 janv. 2022 à 11 h 43
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You know nothing JS
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Quoting: Lochness1202
Habs decline. Toffoli is without question worth a 1st plus. And chiarot by all reports is also a 1st somehow….
Kerfoot, Ritchie and that propsect are worthless to us. They are not bad players but they do nothing for us for the direction we want to go in


^this. No debate here.

Also, the conditionnal pick is hilarious. TML cant win a round and you make it conditionnal to a SC final. LOL.
21 janv. 2022 à 17 h 57
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Leafs suck
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Quoting: RobbStark03
Yeah, he doesn't fit their soft, first round exit system at all. Agreed.


He’s slow and garbage. He’s so overrated bc he’s tough and went to the scf. The leafs need a good puck moving two way dman to play the right side, and chiarot isn’t that.
21 janv. 2022 à 18 h 17
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Go Habs Go
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Quoting: Lochness1202
Habs decline. Toffoli is without question worth a 1st plus. And chiarot by all reports is also a 1st somehow….
Kerfoot, Ritchie and that propsect are worthless to us. They are not bad players but they do nothing for us for the direction we want to go in


The "somehow" is because he's the best "playoff type" defenseman "known" to be available, and can handle heavy top 4 minutes in all situations.
Several teams will be interested and his cap hit will be fairly low with retention, driving the price up.

If there were a similar but better player available, that player would be the one drawing the attention and it would lower the odds of him returning a 1st.
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21 janv. 2022 à 21 h 45
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Quoting: ricochetii
The "somehow" is because he's the best "playoff type" defenseman "known" to be available, and can handle heavy top 4 minutes in all situations.
Several teams will be interested and his cap hit will be fairly low with retention, driving the price up.

If there were a similar but better player available, that player would be the one drawing the attention and it would lower the odds of him returning a 1st.


Listen, I do think he’ll go for a first. I like chiarot and I think opposing fans don’t really know him and what he brought to this team in the last 2 playoffs. He’s been a beast for us…so I do think it’ll be a 1st

It’s definitely more than what he’s worth but someone will pay you’d have to think
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22 janv. 2022 à 0 h 38
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Quoting: Lochness1202
Listen, I do think he’ll go for a first. I like chiarot and I think opposing fans don’t really know him and what he brought to this team in the last 2 playoffs. He’s been a beast for us…so I do think it’ll be a 1st

It’s definitely more than what he’s worth but someone will pay you’d have to think


Supply and Demand. His worth is what GMs are willing to pay. Fans value offensive players more these days. Which is why powerhouse Toronto couldn’t possibly upgrade with the likes of Chiarot, but also can’t get into the second round.
 
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