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Debrincat mock trade

Créé par: datmonkey91
Date de création initiale: 20 janv. 2022
Publié: 20 janv. 2022
Équipe: 2021-22 Oilers d'Edmonton
Transactions
EDM
  1. DeBrincat, Alex
CHI
  1. Bourgault, Xavier [Liste de réserve]
  2. Rodrigue, Olivier
  3. Samorukov, Dmitri
  4. Choix de 2022 ronde en 1e (EDM)
  5. Choix de 2024 ronde en 3e (EDM)
Rachats de contrats
  • James Neal: 1 916 667 $
  • Andrej Sekera: 1 500 000 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Milan Lucic: 750 000 $ (13%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGE1E RONDE2E RONDE3E RONDE4E RONDE5E RONDE6E RONDE7E RONDE
2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2681 500 000 $88 214 468 $669 339 $990 000 $-6 714 468 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Hyman, Zach
5 500 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 7
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McDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $
C
UFA - 5
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Kassian, Zack
3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
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Foegele, Warren
2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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Draisaitl, Leon
8 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
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Puljujärvi, Jesse
1 175 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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Shore, Devin
850 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 2
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Turris, Kyle
1 650 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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Yamamoto, Kailer
1 175 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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Benson, Tyler
750 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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Ryan, Derek
1 250 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
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Sceviour, Colton
750 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
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DeBrincat, Alex
6 400 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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McLeod, Ryan
834 167 $
C
RFA - 1
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Perlini, Brendan
750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Nurse, Darnell
5 600 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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Barrie, Tyson
4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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Koskinen, Mikko
4 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Keith, Duncan
5 538 462 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 2
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Ceci, Cody
3 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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Smith, Mike
2 200 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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Russell, Kris
1 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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Bouchard, Evan
863 333 $
DD
RFA - 2
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Konovalov, Ilya
842 500 $
G
UFA - 2
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Koekkoek, Slater
925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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Skinner, Stuart
750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
5 125 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 8
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Klefbom, Oscar
4 167 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Archibald, Josh
1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
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Lagesson, William
725 000 $ (0 $)
DG
UFA - 1

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20 janv. 2022 à 22 h 3
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Hawks easily pass. DeBrincat is really good. Have to think it starts with Holloway and multiple 1sts. Oils should really focus on getting an actual goaltender and maybe a dman or two
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20 janv. 2022 à 22 h 25
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Holloway and Bouchard (or Holloway + multiple 1sts) will need to be in any DeBrincat deal.
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20 janv. 2022 à 23 h 22
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This isn't remotely close. To get Debrincat, you have to pay and pay a lot. He's 24, on a good cap and is an elite goal scorer.
21 janv. 2022 à 1 h 32
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Quoting: crankshaft
Hawks easily pass. DeBrincat is really good. Have to think it starts with Holloway and multiple 1sts. Oils should really focus on getting an actual goaltender and maybe a dman or two


Quoting: Nqutilus
Holloway and Bouchard (or Holloway + multiple 1sts) will need to be in any DeBrincat deal.


Quoting: Aussie_Blackhawk
This isn't remotely close. To get Debrincat, you have to pay and pay a lot. He's 24, on a good cap and is an elite goal scorer.


I wouldn't think Debrincat gets more than Eichel does and this package is very smiliar in value (just a bit lower than what Vegas gave up). It would be great for the Blackhawks if they can haul in more but I don't see them getting much better value in another trade. Plus he's only under contract for this year and next, I'd expect a huge pay raise for him which might scare some teams away who are tight in cap.
21 janv. 2022 à 1 h 38
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Quoting: datmonkey91
I wouldn't think Debrincat gets more than Eichel does and this package is very smiliar in value (just a bit lower than what Vegas gave up). It would be great for the Blackhawks if they can haul in more but I don't see them getting much better value in another trade. Plus he's only under contract for this year and next, I'd expect a huge pay raise for him which might scare some teams away who are tight in cap.


The difference is he doesn't want out of CHI. And BUF get more for Eichel under different circumstances.
21 janv. 2022 à 1 h 51
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The difference is he doesn't want out of CHI. And BUF get more for Eichel under different circumstances.


Still not enough reason for a team to give up more for Debrincat than one would for Eichel.
21 janv. 2022 à 2 h 37
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The difference is he doesn't want out of CHI. And BUF get more for Eichel under different circumstances.


And financial flexibility this year + the ability to discuss his next contract under your own terms + not coming off ground breaking neck surgery blah blah blah but what do we know
21 janv. 2022 à 8 h 58
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Still not enough reason for a team to give up more for Debrincat than one would for Eichel.


Eichel wanted a trade which gave Vegas leverage.
21 janv. 2022 à 20 h 30
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I wouldn't think Debrincat gets more than Eichel does and this package is very smiliar in value (just a bit lower than what Vegas gave up). It would be great for the Blackhawks if they can haul in more but I don't see them getting much better value in another trade. Plus he's only under contract for this year and next, I'd expect a huge pay raise for him which might scare some teams away who are tight in cap.


Im sorry but I don't see this as remotely close to what Vegas gave up for Eichel who demanded a trade out of Buff and came with a huge cap hit whilst being injured.

I mean you haven't even offered up any of the top prospects in the system, nor have you given up any quality NHL player.

Krebs was their #1 prospect and Tuch was widely considered to have one of the most team friendly deals in the NHL whilst still giving great production.

A comparable Eichel trade from EDM would be

puljujarvi - Re-signed on team friendly deal
Broberg/Hollaway
1st
2nd

And TBH, I would still say no.
21 janv. 2022 à 22 h 17
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Quoting: Aussie_Blackhawk
This isn't remotely close. To get Debrincat, you have to pay and pay a lot. He's 24, on a good cap and is an elite goal scorer.


Imagine having to pay three players over 8M

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21 janv. 2022 à 22 h 18
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Imagine having to pay three players over 8M

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Because Debrincat’s next contract will be over that
22 janv. 2022 à 6 h 47
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Quoting: Aussie_Blackhawk
Im sorry but I don't see this as remotely close to what Vegas gave up for Eichel who demanded a trade out of Buff and came with a huge cap hit whilst being injured.

I mean you haven't even offered up any of the top prospects in the system, nor have you given up any quality NHL player.

Krebs was their #1 prospect and Tuch was widely considered to have one of the most team friendly deals in the NHL whilst still giving great production.

A comparable Eichel trade from EDM would be

puljujarvi - Re-signed on team friendly deal
Broberg/Hollaway
1st
2nd

And TBH, I would still say no.


Still the package for Debrincat shouldn't be more than what Vegas gave up for Eichel. It should be very similar and probably just a little bit lower than what Arizona wants for Chychrun (young nhl player + top prospect + 1st). In the deal you get a top prospect in Bourgault and the 1st, Samorukov who has been developed nicely and will likely play in the NHL next year and some smaller pieces. I think the dear is fair in value and I doubt any team wants to give up a big pacakge for one player seeing it took so long for an Eichel trade and also seeing no Chychrun trade yet.
22 janv. 2022 à 23 h 7
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Still the package for Debrincat shouldn't be more than what Vegas gave up for Eichel. It should be very similar and probably just a little bit lower than what Arizona wants for Chychrun (young nhl player + top prospect + 1st). In the deal you get a top prospect in Bourgault and the 1st, Samorukov who has been developed nicely and will likely play in the NHL next year and some smaller pieces. I think the dear is fair in value and I doubt any team wants to give up a big pacakge for one player seeing it took so long for an Eichel trade and also seeing no Chychrun trade yet.


With all due respect to Bourgault, he's not the oilers top prospect, Not including Bouchard anymore, that moniker would be bestowed upon Holloway or Broberg and Samurokov is an LD with which we have a mountain of guys just like and some even better. The Chychrun deal would be less than what the Cat gets whilst I don't agree that the Cat gets less than Eichel. That could change if he demanded a trade and we lost leverage but as things stand we hold all the cards and all the leverage.
 
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