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All these Severson offers from least worst to most worst

Créé par: NHLfan10506
Date de création initiale: 20 janv. 2022
Publié: 20 janv. 2022
Équipe: 2021-22 Devils du New Jersey
Explications
None of these work...but I admire the persistence.
Transactions
1.
NJD
    Severson, Damon ($2,000,000 retained)
    Johnsson, Andreas ($1,700,000 retained)

    Team #3004525
    TOR
      Robertson, Nicholas
      Liljegren, Timothy
      Holl, Justin
      2022 1st round pick (TOR)
      2023 2nd round pick (TOR)
      2.
      NJD
        Severson, Damon ($1,500,000 retained)

        Team #3000823
        TOR
          Holl, Justin
          Robertson, Nicholas
          2022 1st round pick (TOR)
          2023 2nd round pick (TOR)
          2023 3rd round pick (TOR)
          3.
          NJD
            Severson, Damon ($2,000,000 retained)

            Team #3004556
            TOR
              Holl, Justin
              Engvall, Pierre
              Robertson, Nicholas
              2022 1st round pick (TOR)
              2024 3rd round pick (TOR)
              4.
              NJD
                Severson, Damon ($2,075,000 retained)

                Team #2964852
                TOR
                  Liljegren, Timothy [RFA Rights]
                  2022 1st round pick (TOR)
                  5.
                  NJD
                    Severson, Damon ($2,080,000 retained)

                    Team #2998407
                    TOR
                      Niemelä, Topi
                      Holl, Justin
                      2023 4th round pick (TOR)
                      6.
                      NJD
                        Severson, Damon ($1,000,000 retained)

                        Team #2966182
                        TOR
                          Holl, Justin
                          Amirov, Rodion
                          2023 1st round pick (TOR)
                          7.
                          NJD
                            Severson, Damon ($2,000,000 retained)

                            Team #3004350
                            TOR
                              Holl, Justin
                              Amirov, Rodion
                              2023 1st round pick (TOR)
                              8.
                              NJD
                                Severson, Damon

                                Team #2994846
                                TOR
                                  Holl, Justin
                                  Abruzzese, Nick [Reserve List]
                                  2022 1st round pick (TOR)
                                  9.
                                  NJD
                                    Severson, Damon

                                    Team #2954993
                                    TOR
                                      Der-Arguchintsev, Semyon
                                      Abramov, Mikhail
                                      2022 1st round pick (TOR)
                                      2023 3rd round pick (TOR)
                                      10.
                                      NJD
                                        Severson, Damon
                                        2022 4th round pick (EDM)

                                        Team #3007189
                                        TOR
                                          Dermott, Travis
                                          Amirov, Rodion
                                          2022 2nd round pick (TOR)
                                          2023 3rd round pick (TOR)
                                          11.
                                          NJD
                                            Severson, Damon ($2,083,333 retained)

                                            Team #2997918
                                            TOR
                                              Holl, Justin
                                              Rindell, Axel [Reserve List]
                                              2022 1st round pick (TOR)
                                              2023 4th round pick (TOR)
                                              12.
                                              NJD
                                                Severson, Damon ($2,083,333 retained)

                                                Team #3003945
                                                TOR
                                                  Duszak, Joseph
                                                  Hirvonen, Roni
                                                  2022 1st round pick (TOR)
                                                  2024 4th round pick (TOR)
                                                  13.
                                                  NJD
                                                    Severson, Damon ($1,357,222 retained)

                                                    Team #2991386
                                                    TOR
                                                      Holl, Justin
                                                      Abramov, Mikhail
                                                      2022 1st round pick (TOR)
                                                      14.
                                                      NJD
                                                        Severson, Damon

                                                        Team #2952050
                                                        TOR
                                                          Holl, Justin
                                                          Der-Arguchintsev, Semyon
                                                          2023 1st round pick (TOR)
                                                          15.
                                                          NJD
                                                            Severson, Damon

                                                            Team #2965723
                                                            TOR
                                                              Abramov, Mikhail
                                                              Hollowell, Mac
                                                              2022 1st round pick (TOR)
                                                              16.
                                                              NJD
                                                                Severson, Damon

                                                                Team #3007226
                                                                TOR
                                                                  Holl, Justin
                                                                  Ritchie, Nick
                                                                  Abramov, Mikhail
                                                                  2022 1st round pick (TOR)
                                                                  17.
                                                                  NJD
                                                                    Severson, Damon ($2,000,000 retained)

                                                                    Team #2906771
                                                                    TOR
                                                                      Holl, Justin
                                                                      Engvall, Pierre
                                                                      2023 1st round pick (TOR)
                                                                      18.
                                                                      NJD
                                                                        Severson, Damon ($2,083,333 retained)
                                                                        Greer, AJ

                                                                        Team #2974289
                                                                        TOR
                                                                          Amirov, Rodion
                                                                          Ritchie, Nick
                                                                          2023 2nd round pick (TOR)
                                                                          19.
                                                                          NJD
                                                                            Severson, Damon ($2,083,333 retained)

                                                                            Team #2954179
                                                                            TOR
                                                                              Holl, Justin
                                                                              Kokkonen, Mikko
                                                                              2022 1st round pick (TOR)
                                                                              2023 4th round pick (TOR)
                                                                              20.
                                                                              NJD
                                                                                Severson, Damon ($2,000,000 retained)

                                                                                Team #2915725
                                                                                TOR
                                                                                  2023 1st round pick (TOR)
                                                                                  2023 3rd round pick (TOR)
                                                                                  2024 4th round pick (TOR)
                                                                                  21.
                                                                                  NJD
                                                                                    Severson, Damon ($1,166,666 retained)

                                                                                    Team #2996473
                                                                                    TOR
                                                                                      Dermott, Travis
                                                                                      2023 1st round pick (TOR)
                                                                                      22.
                                                                                      NJD
                                                                                        Severson, Damon ($2,000,000 retained)
                                                                                        Thompson, Tyce

                                                                                        Team #2949609
                                                                                        TOR
                                                                                          Robertson, Nicholas
                                                                                          2022 1st round pick (TOR)
                                                                                          23.
                                                                                          NJD
                                                                                            Severson, Damon

                                                                                            Team #2951962
                                                                                            TOR
                                                                                              Der-Arguchintsev, Semyon
                                                                                              Dermott, Travis
                                                                                              2023 2nd round pick (TOR)
                                                                                              24.
                                                                                              NJD
                                                                                                Severson, Damon

                                                                                                Team #3006527
                                                                                                TOR
                                                                                                  Ritchie, Nick
                                                                                                  Holl, Justin
                                                                                                  2022 1st round pick (TOR)
                                                                                                  25.
                                                                                                  NJD
                                                                                                    Severson, Damon ($2,000,000 retained)
                                                                                                    2022 7th round pick (NJD)

                                                                                                    Team #3004165
                                                                                                    TOR
                                                                                                      Holl, Justin
                                                                                                      Abramov, Mikhail
                                                                                                      Kokkonen, Mikko
                                                                                                      2023 2nd round pick (TOR)
                                                                                                      26.
                                                                                                      NJD
                                                                                                        Severson, Damon

                                                                                                        Team #2995909
                                                                                                        TOR
                                                                                                          Kerfoot, Alexander
                                                                                                          Dermott, Travis
                                                                                                          2023 3rd round pick (TOR)
                                                                                                          27.
                                                                                                          NJD
                                                                                                            Severson, Damon ($2,000,000 retained)
                                                                                                            2022 7th round pick (NJD)

                                                                                                            Team #2999229
                                                                                                            TOR
                                                                                                              Holl, Justin
                                                                                                              Abramov, Mikhail
                                                                                                              2023 2nd round pick (TOR)
                                                                                                              28.
                                                                                                              NJD
                                                                                                                Severson, Damon ($2,000,000 retained)
                                                                                                                2022 4th round pick (NJD)

                                                                                                                Team #2985860
                                                                                                                TOR
                                                                                                                  Holl, Justin
                                                                                                                  2022 2nd round pick (TOR)
                                                                                                                  2023 2nd round pick (TOR)
                                                                                                                  29.
                                                                                                                  NJD
                                                                                                                    Severson, Damon

                                                                                                                    Team #2952033
                                                                                                                    TOR
                                                                                                                      Holl, Justin
                                                                                                                      30.
                                                                                                                      NJD
                                                                                                                        Severson, Damon ($2,083,333 retained)

                                                                                                                        Team #3004761
                                                                                                                        TOR
                                                                                                                          Ritchie, Nick
                                                                                                                          Dermott, Travis
                                                                                                                          Steeves, Alex
                                                                                                                          2023 4th round pick (TOR)
                                                                                                                          31.
                                                                                                                          NJD
                                                                                                                          1. Knies, Matthew [Liste de réserve]
                                                                                                                          2. Niemelä, Topi [Liste de réserve]
                                                                                                                          3. 2022 1e round pick (TOR)
                                                                                                                          Détails additionnels:
                                                                                                                          Until someone shows me something better, I will stick with this as the price.
                                                                                                                          TOR
                                                                                                                          1. Severson, Damon
                                                                                                                          Rachats de contrats
                                                                                                                          • Cory Schneider: 2 000 000 $
                                                                                                                          Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
                                                                                                                          • Will Butcher: 910 569 $ (24%)
                                                                                                                          Frais appliqués
                                                                                                                          • Ilya Kovalchuk: 250 000 $
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                                                                                                                          Bratt, Jesper
                                                                                                                          2 750 000 $
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                                                                                                                          Hughes, Jack
                                                                                                                          925 000 $
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                                                                                                                          Sharangovich, Yegor
                                                                                                                          2 000 000 $
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                                                                                                                          Zacha, Pavel
                                                                                                                          2 250 000 $
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                                                                                                                          Hischier, Nico
                                                                                                                          7 250 000 $
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                                                                                                                          Tatar, Tomas
                                                                                                                          4 500 000 $
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                                                                                                                          Kuokkanen, Janne
                                                                                                                          1 825 000 $
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                                                                                                                          Mercer, Dawson
                                                                                                                          894 167 $
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                                                                                                                          Johnsson, Andreas
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                                                                                                                          Vesey, Jimmy
                                                                                                                          800 000 $
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                                                                                                                          Mcleod, Michael
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                                                                                                                          Bastian, Nathan
                                                                                                                          825 000 $
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                                                                                                                          3 166 667 $
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                                                                                                                          Hamilton, Dougie
                                                                                                                          9 000 000 $
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                                                                                                                          2 800 000 $
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                                                                                                                          Subban, P.K.
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                                                                                                                          Gillies, Jon
                                                                                                                          750 000 $
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                                                                                                                          Smith, Ty
                                                                                                                          863 333 $
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                                                                                                                          Jaros, Christian
                                                                                                                          800 000 $
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                                                                                                                          Boqvist, Jesper
                                                                                                                          925 000 $
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                                                                                                                          Bernier, Jonathan
                                                                                                                          4 125 000 $
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                                                                                                                          750 000 $
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                                                                                                                          2 750 000 $
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                                                                                                                          750 000 $
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                                                                                                                          912 500 $
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                                                                                                                          Greer, AJ
                                                                                                                          750 000 $
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                                                                                                                          20 janv. à 12 h 6
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                                                                                                                          Great effort. Great job
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                                                                                                                          Dear Lord how long did this take
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                                                                                                                          I really appreciate how much work this probably took, so I won't crap on it too much, but your final package seems a little rich. Only one of Neimela or Knies, no both.
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                                                                                                                          I don't think Severson would get much more than 1st+prospect but it's definitely a closer offer than what most Leafs fans would propose
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                                                                                                                          I mean, some are clearly just people trolling, but some also are hella good values for Severson. IMHO.

                                                                                                                          If Im Tor, I would not trade Holl, Amirov and a 1st for Severson nor Holl, Robertson, 1st, 2nd, 3rd for Severson either.
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                                                                                                                          Quoting: Saskleaf
                                                                                                                          I really appreciate how much work this probably took, so I won't crap on it too much, but your final package seems a little rich. Only one of Neimela or Knies, no both.


                                                                                                                          Appreciate that. I use “Niemela, Knies, 1st” since it was a response I used a while ago so just stuck with it. (Was originally a 2nd, went to 1st with retention). In reality, I think guys like Liljegren, Amirov, Villenueve would be reasonable substitutes, but would not be my preferences.

                                                                                                                          There has been a pattern of lowball offers for Severson from Leafs fans for last year and a half. And when Devils fans say they are not interested, they get insulted. So, my patience was worn thin.
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                                                                                                                          Devils fans think that Severson is a norris callibre dman.... No team would give up a first and two top prospects for a guy to play on their second pairing.....
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                                                                                                                          Quoting: F50marco
                                                                                                                          I mean, some are clearly just people trolling, but some also are hella good values for Severson. IMHO.

                                                                                                                          If Im Tor, I would not trade Holl, Amirov and a 1st for Severson nor Holl, Robertson, 1st, 2nd, 3rd for Severson either.


                                                                                                                          I should say that Im more than willing to change my mind though. if you can find comparable trades in history to support what you think he's worth, Im all ears.
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                                                                                                                          yeah, severson’s not getting you more than 1st+prospect, and that prospect isn’t gonna be niemela/knies level, and you’re out of your mind if you think you’re getting both. Maybe robertson, probably more like hirvonen. And then holl for cap reasons, who you can then swap for another mid-round pick or keep to fill out the lineup
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                                                                                                                          Quoting: NHLfan10506
                                                                                                                          Appreciate that. I use “Niemela, Knies, 1st” since it was a response I used a while ago so just stuck with it. (Was originally a 2nd, went to 1st with retention). In reality, I think guys like Liljegren, Amirov, Villenueve would be reasonable substitutes, but would not be my preferences.

                                                                                                                          There has been a pattern of lowball offers for Severson from Leafs fans for last year and a half. And when Devils fans say they are not interested, they get insulted. So, my patience was worn thin.


                                                                                                                          I can definitely see how your patience would wear thin lol. If there was 5 million Brodie for Subban and a second trades I would lose my mind.
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                                                                                                                          if NJD needs scoring wingers i think Nick Rob should be the target prospect and then bottom out in standings and take a RD Nemec/Jiricek

                                                                                                                          or could go the other way and get Niemela as RD and draft Yurov/Kemell/Slafkovsky

                                                                                                                          i think a 1st+ 1 of those guys is good, then retention can add another decent piece
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                                                                                                                          Quoting: Saskleaf
                                                                                                                          I can definitely see how your patience would wear thin lol. If there was 5 million Brodie for Subban and a second trades I would lose my mind.


                                                                                                                          Quoting: NHLfan10506
                                                                                                                          Appreciate that. I use “Niemela, Knies, 1st” since it was a response I used a while ago so just stuck with it. (Was originally a 2nd, went to 1st with retention). In reality, I think guys like Liljegren, Amirov, Villenueve would be reasonable substitutes, but would not be my preferences.

                                                                                                                          There has been a pattern of lowball offers for Severson from Leafs fans for last year and a half. And when Devils fans say they are not interested, they get insulted. So, my patience was worn thin.


                                                                                                                          I’ve always thought the Muzzin trade would be pretty comparable. What do you think about Hirvonen, Villenvue and a 1st, without retention?
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                                                                                                                          Quoting: F50marco
                                                                                                                          I mean, some are clearly just people trolling, but some also are hella good values for Severson. IMHO.

                                                                                                                          If Im Tor, I would not trade Holl, Amirov and a 1st for Severson nor Holl, Robertson, 1st, 2nd, 3rd for Severson either.


                                                                                                                          Quoting: F50marco
                                                                                                                          I mean, some are clearly just people trolling, but some also are hella good values for Severson. IMHO.

                                                                                                                          If Im Tor, I would not trade Holl, Amirov and a 1st for Severson nor Holl, Robertson, 1st, 2nd, 3rd for Severson either.


                                                                                                                          I would not do those as Devils fan either. I have seen enough of Amirov (when he plays) since he is on same team as Mukhamadullin and have yet to see the player we saw at that u18 tournament a few years ago. I route for Nick Robertson as a player, but is too goal-dependent to be a regular if the offense is slow to come. The best route for the Devils is to re-sign Severson to an extension next summer (I am guessing $6-7m x 6).
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                                                                                                                          Quoting: F50marco
                                                                                                                          I should say that Im more than willing to change my mind though. if you can find comparable trades in history to support what you think he's worth, Im all ears.


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                                                                                                                          Quoting: Oodz
                                                                                                                          Devils fans think that Severson is a norris callibre dman.... No team would give up a first and two top prospects for a guy to play on their second pairing.....


                                                                                                                          Show me where I said anything about Severson and the Norris trophy
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                                                                                                                          Quoting: Alfie11
                                                                                                                          yeah, severson’s not getting you more than 1st+prospect, and that prospect isn’t gonna be niemela/knies level, and you’re out of your mind if you think you’re getting both. Maybe robertson, probably more like hirvonen. And then holl for cap reasons, who you can then swap for another mid-round pick or keep to fill out the lineup


                                                                                                                          People told us that Blake Coleman would only get a late round pick. People said Palmieri would never return a 1st. Leaf fans consistently said Johnsson would cost us a 1st (even one guy saying the price was Joey Anderson AND a 1st). So forgive me if I remain skeptical. My experience only reaffirms that.
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                                                                                                                          Quoting: NHLfan10506
                                                                                                                          I would not do those as Devils fan either. I have seen enough of Amirov (when he plays) since he is on same team as Mukhamadullin and have yet to see the player we saw at that u18 tournament a few years ago. I route for Nick Robertson as a player, but is too goal-dependent to be a regular if the offense is slow to come. The best route for the Devils is to re-sign Severson to an extension next summer (I am guessing $6-7m x 6).


                                                                                                                          Fair enough, but high end prospects still have a value associated with them. Amirov may not be a top 10 prospect but he is still a promising prospect chosen in the 1st round. Robertson is highly touted as well. Maybe not as much as Tor say but that besides the point. You not liking them doesn't change the fact that they carry a value and those values along with a 1st rounder and roster player replacement is probably a very decent value for a dman of Severson's stature.

                                                                                                                          Im not even certain signing Severson to 6 years X 6-7M is a good idea. That will take him to 35 years old. If we've seen, statistically, the best Severson has to offer already, I don't think age 33 Severson is going to be remotely worth 6-7M.

                                                                                                                          Either way you can stick to what ever price you think is fair but I don't think some of the offers mentioned above are unfair either. Just not what you're looking for.
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                                                                                                                          Quoting: GoHabsGo99
                                                                                                                          if NJD needs scoring wingers i think Nick Rob should be the target prospect and then bottom out in standings and take a RD Nemec/Jiricek

                                                                                                                          or could go the other way and get Niemela as RD and draft Yurov/Kemell/Slafkovsky

                                                                                                                          i think a 1st+ 1 of those guys is good, then retention can add another decent piece


                                                                                                                          Unfortunately, even if we keep Severson, we could still bottom out in the standings (if we play the way we did last night). I am sure the scouts have been dispatched already for Nemec and Jiricek (maybe not Jiricek due to injury).

                                                                                                                          I am lukewarm on Robertson. Not sure that he brings a lot more than guys like Tyce Thompson or Graeme Clarke. So I'd rather have Knies or one of the d-man as they bring something more unique to our pipeline.
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                                                                                                                          Quoting: NHLfan10506
                                                                                                                          People told us that Blake Coleman would only get a late round pick. People said Palmieri would never return a 1st. Leaf fans consistently said Johnsson would cost us a 1st (even one guy saying the price was Joey Anderson AND a 1st). So forgive me if I remain skeptical. My experience only reaffirms that.

                                                                                                                          Yeah, and the people saying that were also dumb. Coleman was obviously more than expected, but Palmieri went for pretty much exactly what everyone expected. Severson isn't gonna be dealt for Ritchie+Engvall+Holl+2nd or anything, but asking for 1st+Niemela+Knies is equally outlandish.
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                                                                                                                          Some of those comps are either too old or don't apply. I think the Montour one is somewhat valid.
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                                                                                                                          I would do knies, and a first
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                                                                                                                          Quoting: F50marco
                                                                                                                          Fair enough, but high end prospects still have a value associated with them. Amirov may not be a top 10 prospect but he is still a promising prospect chosen in the 1st round. Robertson is highly touted as well. Maybe not as much as Tor say but that besides the point. You not liking them doesn't change the fact that they carry a value and those values along with a 1st rounder and roster player replacement is probably a very decent value for a dman of Severson's stature.

                                                                                                                          Im not even certain signing Severson to 6 years X 6-7M is a good idea. That will take him to 35 years old. If we've seen, statistically, the best Severson has to offer already, I don't think age 33 Severson is going to be remotely worth 6-7M.

                                                                                                                          Either way you can stick to what ever price you think is fair but I don't think some of the offers mentioned above are unfair either. Just not what you're looking for.


                                                                                                                          So why has Amirov not been playing? To me, he is a mystery box. Too much uncertainty. It other words, there is a risk premium attached to his potential value, which limits his price. All risk calculations are based on two factors: cost and probability. A $10 payoff with 100% certainty is worth $10. A $10 payoff with 80% certainty is worth $8. And so on. So Amirov may have a very high potential value. We saw it at world u18s. But I wouldn't pay full value for him.
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                                                                                                                          okok chill... Ritchie, Holl a seventh and double retention on Severson????????????????????
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                                                                                                                          Quoting: NHLfan10506
                                                                                                                          So why has Amirov not been playing? To me, he is a mystery box. Too much uncertainty. It other words, there is a risk premium attached to his potential value, which limits his price. All risk calculations are based on two factors: cost and probability. A $10 payoff with 100% certainty is worth $10. A $10 payoff with 80% certainty is worth $8. And so on. So Amirov may have a very high potential value. We saw it at world u18s. But I wouldn't pay full value for him.


                                                                                                                          I think we disagree on that % then. You calling him a mystery box after 1 season in which he hasn't been lighting it up is a little premature IMHO. Hockey players at that age don't go from 90% to 10% over night.
                                                                                                                           
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