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Créé par: CD282
Date de création initiale: 19 janv. 2022
Publié: 19 janv. 2022
Équipe: 2021-22 Avalanche du Colorado
Explications
Friedman and others are suggesting Colorado has some interest in Fleury, and Fleury might be open to waiving his NMC for Denver. Colorado doesn't have any cap space, so equal money needs to go out. What does that look like? Here's an idea:

Fleury to Colorado
Kuemper to Edmonton
Koskinen to Chicago

The cap works, what other pieces need to be involved? Colorado obviously doesn't have a 1st or 2nd pick this year, so there would have to be prospects involved. I think this is better for Chicago though - they aren't doing a full rebuild and won't want to wait several years for picks to pan out.
Transactions
1.
COL
  1. Koskinen, Mikko
EDM
  1. Kuemper, Darcy
2.
COL
  1. Fleury, Marc-André (3 500 000 $ retained)
CHI
  1. Koskinen, Mikko
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
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2023
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Logo de COL
Logo de COL
Logo de COL
Logo de COL
Logo de COL
2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $77 578 130 $1 741 463 $3 432 500 $3 921 870 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de COL
Landeskog, Gabriel
7 000 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 8
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MacKinnon, Nathan
6 300 000 $
C, AD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Rantanen, Mikko
9 250 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 4
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Burakovsky, André
4 900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Kadri, Nazem
4 500 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de COL
Compher, J.T.
3 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de COL
Nichushkin, Valeri
2 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de COL
Jost, Tyson
2 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de COL
Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
1 075 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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Maltsev, Mikhail
809 167 $
AG
RFA - 1
Logo de COL
Newhook, Alex
908 333 $
C
RFA - 2
Logo de COL
Sherwood, Kiefer
750 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de COL
O'Connor, Logan
725 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de COL
Girard, Samuel
5 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 6
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Makar, Cale
9 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
Logo de COL
Francouz, Pavel
2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de COL
Toews, Devon
4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de COL
Johnson, Erik
6 000 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de CHI
Fleury, Marc-André
0 $
G
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de COL
Murray, Ryan
2 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de COL
Byram, Bowen
894 167 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de COL
MacDermid, Kurtis
875 000 $
DG/DD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de COL
Johnson, Jack
750 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de COL
Helm, Darren
1 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Matteau, Stefan
750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de COL
MacDonald, Jacob
725 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
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Miska, Hunter
725 000 $ (0 $)
G
UFA - 1

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19 janv. à 21 h 4
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I don't think theres a fair and equitable deal for this 3 way trade.

The problem with the Av's is most of their prospects of value are defensemen. We need offence and they aren't going to want to give up something of value if they also would be moving Kuemper.

EDM too for Kuemper would need to pay considerably. Something I doubt they would be prepared to do.
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20 janv. à 7 h 45
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No you sited a guy that openly said COL and CAR were going to be mentioned in every trade RUMOR. There are zero articles saying the Avs are interested in MAF, what there are are a lot of opinion pieces by places like nhltraderumors.com, and thehockeywriters.com saying COL should look into him. So if there are reports, actual reports you’ve seen and not opinion pieces please do share.


It was a radio spot yesterday Friedman mentioned it. I don't have a link. Feel free to do your own research.
20 janv. à 7 h 48
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The lehner trade that the hawks did to get him to Vegas thru Toronto with rentention...it didnt involve a first. Maclom Subban, a 2nd, and a prospect, who wasn't a top prospect at the time. .
Teams would look at that trade price over a 1st or a 1st+ that some trades have shown. Lehners numbers were solid at the time too.

What that be like Skinner and a 2nd for MAF 50% retained....maybe?

Skinner is a lot of value going out for a rental. I guess it depends on how desperate Holland is, as he's already stated he isn't trading a top prospect for a rental.
20 janv. à 7 h 49
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This makes zero sense for COL. COL already invested a 1st and top prospect in Kuemper and he was starting to play significantly better.

He's .907 in his last 5 games. Meh.
20 janv. à 8 h 54
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He's .907 in his last 5 games. Meh.


Sure and what was their record in those 5? 4-0-1, and then it will be well anybody could of done that. Sakic isn’t pulling the cord on the 1st guy he ever traded a 1st rd pick for 26 games into doing it.
20 janv. à 9 h 47
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Sure and what was their record in those 5? 4-0-1, and then it will be well anybody could of done that. Sakic isn’t pulling the cord on the 1st guy he ever traded a 1st rd pick for 26 games into doing it.

.907 isn't "significantly better" as you stated, and if he isn't significantly better it WILL matter in the playoffs.
20 janv. à 11 h 27
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.907 isn't "significantly better" as you stated, and if he isn't significantly better it WILL matter in the playoffs.


4-0-1 is 4-0-1. In the end wins matter not save percentage, and you continually want to ignore the fact Sakic already invested a 1st and very good prospect and isn’t going to pull the plug on a guy that is 17-5-1 through the start of the season.
 
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