Would you even trade Guentzel for that return?

Guentzel is better and hes worth more

Barely better, last year they were both ~ppg players. Ehlers is signed longer and younger. Not to mention you asked for retention

Ill rephrase though, Would your package even come remotely close to landing Guentzel?

Nope because were actually contending

And Winnipeg is also trying to contend

Also guentzel isnt barely better, hes better. He wouldve had 99 points if he played all 82 games this year. That almost 100 points. Not to mention he wouldve had 51 goals. Isnt math great (jk it sucks). Guentz is truly better than Ehlers imo and I dont think theres an argument that you can make to say that Ehlers is better.

And before you say Guentzel has Crosby, Guentzel has 40 points in 37 games without sid.

Im not saying Ehlers is better, I literally said he was worse. Quit throwing a tantrum about it.

Your offer is still a joke though as the value of Ehlers is around the same as Guentzel's when you consider age and term

No way Winnipeg does that. Maybe if there was no retention, but they definitely don’t do it with retention.

Nothing interesting in that deal at all for Winnipeg other than the first. A rental, an unneeded LD and a low end winger don't do anything for the Jets or get you a first line winger.

Dude I'm not throwing a tantrum. You said Guentzel is barely better so that's why I said that

So what does that whole thing about points and math have to do with that, or you claiming I was going to say Ehlers is better? Thats a completely random outburst of things that didnt have any relevance

Right now, based upon percentage, Winnipeg is in the second wild-card slot in the Western Conference.

That doesn't change the direction the team is aiming for and their current build

???

I was reinforcing your point that Winnipeg wouldn't make this trade even if it were fair value because it's a future-oriented move, which was the reason the OP gave for not wanting to trade Guentzel but arguing that Winnipeg WOULD trade Ehlers.

My mistake, misunderstood

Jets decline

I was just giving my point of view. My bad if I misunderstood you

A 4 mil Ehlers is worth a lot more...A top prospect and a high pick probably, and Pens have neither. Or a player of similar age and value, and Pens is not doing that.