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17 janv. 2022 à 10 h 18
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Foligno has a full NMC this season.
17 janv. 2022 à 10 h 19
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Boston and Foligno and his NMC both decline.

Debrusk > White

Foligno > Del Zotto

5th > Kelly

The only gain is cap space, which is uneeded.
17 janv. 2022 à 10 h 21
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Oh man. Can you go ahead and try to make any sort of case for boston wanting to do that? It seems absolutely dreadful for them.
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17 janv. 2022 à 11 h 26
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Devils need a goalie, so would probably entertain the Forsberg deal
19 janv. 2022 à 9 h 36
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Quoting: Gofnut999
Boston and Foligno and his NMC both decline.

Debrusk > White

Foligno > Del Zotto

5th > Kelly

The only gain is cap space, which is uneeded.


DeBrusk last 2 seasons : 10 goals, 24 points in 72 games (0.33 PPG)... He plays 14-15 minutes per game so I don't think it's a lack of opportunity. Even his possession metrics are not very good. His QO is quite high so unless he'd want to sign for much lower... I'd much rather have Thomas Chabot best friend Colin White who is still very useful when not scoring by being solid defensively and having good possession stats. He had a pretty solid rookie season offensively but hasn't had the same role since (he's not a top-6 forward) but stil has produced more than DeBrusk (~0.4 PPG)

Foligno 3.8 AAV next season vs Del Zotto 2.0 AAV next season : Who would you rather have? MDZ has 17 pts in 18 NHL/AHL games this season, maybe if sheltered in a strong system, he could even be a bit useful. We love Nick but he's going to be 35 y/o next season, he's getting too old/slow for the NHL

Parker Kelly is a short term 4th liner, maybe could be useful for a season or two. But yeah I think we'd take the 5th here

Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Oh man. Can you go ahead and try to make any sort of case for boston wanting to do that? It seems absolutely dreadful for them.


Sens have even less reason to do that, unless they think that DeBrusk would turn it around in a big way in Ottawa? TOI would become hard to get too

Tkachuk, Formenton, Stutzle (?), Paul, Greig, Crookshank, Sokolov, Jarventie, Lodin

Sens would rather have White and not have Foligno's contract. But everything is possible as Dorion makes a lot of bad decisions.
19 janv. 2022 à 9 h 52
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DeBrusk last 2 seasons : 10 goals, 24 points in 72 games (0.33 PPG)... He plays 14-15 minutes per game so I don't think it's a lack of opportunity. Even his possession metrics are not very good. His QO is quite high so unless he'd want to sign for much lower... I'd much rather have Thomas Chabot best friend Colin White who is still very useful when not scoring by being solid defensively and having good possession stats. He had a pretty solid rookie season offensively but hasn't had the same role since (he's not a top-6 forward) but stil has produced more than DeBrusk (~0.4 PPG)

Foligno 3.8 AAV next season vs Del Zotto 2.0 AAV next season : Who would you rather have? MDZ has 17 pts in 18 NHL/AHL games this season, maybe if sheltered in a strong system, he could even be a bit useful. We love Nick but he's going to be 35 y/o next season, he's getting too old/slow for the NHL

Parker Kelly is a short term 4th liner, maybe could be useful for a season or two. But yeah I think we'd take the 5th here



Sens have even less reason to do that, unless they think that DeBrusk would turn it around in a big way in Ottawa? TOI would become hard to get too

Tkachuk, Formenton, Stutzle (?), Paul, Greig, Crookshank, Sokolov, Jarventie, Lodin

Sens would rather have White and not have Foligno's contract. But everything is possible as Dorion makes a lot of bad decisions.


White is a 3rd liner with bad contract…keep him.

Much rather have Foligno than Del Zotto, thanks for asking. It’s not even close. Nick’s contract sucks too but come playoffs he’s the type of player they have been lacking. Del Zotto is just a depth d and not a very good one.
19 janv. 2022 à 10 h 53
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White is a 3rd liner with bad contract…keep him.

Much rather have Foligno than Del Zotto, thanks for asking. It’s not even close. Nick’s contract sucks too but come playoffs he’s the type of player they have been lacking. Del Zotto is just a depth d and not a very good one.


None of that is "false" but what is Jake DeBrusk then if "White is a 3rd liner with bad contract"?

Colin White is a SOLID 3rd liner, overpaid by about 1.00-1.25

Del Zotto is still good offensively but the Sens don't want to play him (it was another very questionable move by Dorion). He's a cap dump at the moment. Ok if you believe Nick can still "bring it" but did you watch him last playoffs? Totally non-factor, actually thought he was an anchor. Leafs paid a high price to get him and it was totally useless
19 janv. 2022 à 11 h 27
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None of that is "false" but what is Jake DeBrusk then if "White is a 3rd liner with bad contract"?

Colin White is a SOLID 3rd liner, overpaid by about 1.00-1.25

Del Zotto is still good offensively but the Sens don't want to play him (it was another very questionable move by Dorion). He's a cap dump at the moment. Ok if you believe Nick can still "bring it" but did you watch him last playoffs? Totally non-factor, actually thought he was an anchor. Leafs paid a high price to get him and it was totally useless


Debrudk - Someone they are not tied to for 3 more years. 😉

Foligno - I have seen him play this year. Plays hard, physical, goes to net. Playoff hockey. Del Zotto just sits in the press box as emergency replacement. He’d be 9th on their depth chart.
19 janv. 2022 à 11 h 37
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Debrudk - Someone they are not tied to for 3 more years. 😉

Foligno - I have seen him play this year. Plays hard, physical, goes to net. Playoff hockey. Del Zotto just sits in the press box as emergency replacement. He’d be 9th on their depth chart.


Ok fair answers

What's the plan with DeBrusk? I think a lot of people are wondering. His QO makes it very hard.

And hopefully Foligno's body holds up for the playoffs. Always liked the Bruins, particularly against the Habs or Leafs.
19 janv. 2022 à 11 h 55
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Ok fair answers

What's the plan with DeBrusk? I think a lot of people are wondering. His QO makes it very hard.

And hopefully Foligno's body holds up for the playoffs. Always liked the Bruins, particularly against the Habs or Leafs.


Boston made it pretty clear they are not going to trade him just accommodate him. They either get something they want in return or hold him. The closer they get to the deadline they may change their mind. And the play of Steen may change what they are willing to take. But he won’t be back next year one way or the other.
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