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Screw Klingberg he is not what the leafs need

Créé par: Wulfgar85
Date de création initiale: 16 janv. 2022
Publié: 16 janv. 2022
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Explications
Leafs do not need Klingberg, another straight offence first D man is not what the leafs need. The guy I have in mind is Damon Sererson. Won't put up the same numbers a Klingberg but is a better all around d man. I don't know what it would take, this trade is just a starting point
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. 2024 7e round pick (OTT)
Total cap dump, can be any team just chose the sens
OTT
  1. Ritchie, Nick
2.
TOR
  1. Severson, Damon (1 500 000 $ retained)
NJD
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. Robertson, Nicholas
  3. 2022 1e round pick (TOR)
  4. 2023 2e round pick (TOR)
  5. 2023 3e round pick (TOR)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
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2281 500 000 $81 449 782 $0 $400 000 $50 218 $
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Bunting, Michael
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Matthews, Auston
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Marner, Mitchell
10 903 000 $
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Mikheyev, Ilya
1 645 000 $
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Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
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Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
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UFA - 3
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Engvall, Pierre
1 250 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
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Kerfoot, Alexander
3 500 000 $
AG, C
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Kase, Ondrej
1 250 000 $
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Clifford, Kyle
1 000 000 $
AG
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Kämpf, David
1 500 000 $
C, AD
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Simmonds, Wayne
900 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
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Spezza, Jason
750 000 $
C, AD
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Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
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Brodie, TJ
5 000 000 $
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Mrázek, Petr
3 800 000 $
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Muzzin, Jake
5 625 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
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Severson, Damon
2 666 666 $
DD
UFA - 2
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Campbell, Jack
1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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Sandin, Rasmus
894 167 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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Liljegren, Timothy
863 333 $
DD
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Dermott, Travis
1 500 000 $
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Biega, Alex
750 000 $ (0 $)
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Seney, Brett
750 000 $ (0 $)
C, AG
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Anderson, Joey
750 000 $ (0 $)
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Hutchinson, Michael
725 000 $ (0 $)
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UFA - 1

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16 janv. à 19 h 45
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Klingberg is not an OFD like Barrie. He is an excellent PMD
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16 janv. à 19 h 48
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Better than many of the other Severson offers we have seen, but still not convincing for NJD. They'd want a young d-man in there.
16 janv. à 19 h 52
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I feel like you need Liljgren in there as devils lack RD prospects and have alot of forward prospects. Maybe keep Holl and replace him with Liljgren and take away the second. Or keep the second in there and put Ritchie in and that might work.
16 janv. à 19 h 56
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Quoting: Lancebmx
I feel like you need Liljgren in there as devils lack RD prospects and have alot of forward prospects. Maybe keep Holl and replace him with Liljgren and take away the second. Or keep the second in there and put Ritchie in and that might work.


I would totally be ok with that like I said the offer was just a starting point
16 janv. à 19 h 59
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I would totally be ok with that like I said the offer was just a starting point


Yup very good starting point
16 janv. à 20 h 2
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Devils fans don’t seem to like what we have to offer.

Most of us don’t like what they want.

I’d do Holl, Ritchie, Rindell, 1st, 2nd for Severson. No rentention.
Essentially a 2nd to dump Ritchie + Holl, Rindell (young RHD) and a 1st.

If that doesn’t do it, go elsewhere.
16 janv. à 20 h 17
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Better than many of the other Severson offers we have seen, but still not convincing for NJD. They'd want a young d-man in there.


Sandin or Niemela
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16 janv. à 20 h 32
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Quoting: Lancebmx
I feel like you need Liljgren in there as devils lack RD prospects and have alot of forward prospects. Maybe keep Holl and replace him with Liljgren and take away the second. Or keep the second in there and put Ritchie in and that might work.


Wait are you asking for Liljegren, a 1st and Robertson? That's more than Chychrun is going to get. Essentially 3 1st. I think this price above is pretty high already.
16 janv. à 20 h 32
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Quoting: BlackwoodForVezina
Sandin or Niemela


That's just silly. Severson isn't worth that much.
16 janv. à 20 h 36
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That's just silly. Severson isn't worth that much.



it’s the market value
16 janv. à 20 h 37
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Quoting: BlackwoodForVezina
it’s the market value


It's more than Chychrun is going to go for. You need to temper your expectations
16 janv. à 21 h 48
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Wait are you asking for Liljegren, a 1st and Robertson? That's more than Chychrun is going to get. Essentially 3 1st. I think this price above is pretty high already.


They have no reason to trade him. He has a pretty decent contract. In his prime age. Add two years of retention. Plus then taking on Ritchie's contract. Also RD seem to be more expensive.
16 janv. à 22 h 17
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
It's more than Chychrun is going to go for. You need to temper your expectations


Chychrun is gonna go for more than that
16 janv. à 22 h 44
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They have no reason to trade him. He has a pretty decent contract. In his prime age. Add two years of retention. Plus then taking on Ritchie's contract. Also RD seem to be more expensive.


All that aside we are talking about a 2nd pair defenceman, not an all-star #1. The equivalent of 3 firsts is nuts. This is significantly more than it cost to get Muzzin who was a bigger prize than Severson. This is silly.
16 janv. à 22 h 46
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Chychrun is gonna go for more than that


A good young roster player (Liljegren), a top prospect (Robertson) and a 1st is literally the asking price for Chychrun. Severson isn't getting more than it took to get Muzzin which was a 1st and two b prospects
16 janv. à 23 h 37
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A good young roster player (Liljegren), a top prospect (Robertson) and a 1st is literally the asking price for Chychrun. Severson isn't getting more than it took to get Muzzin which was a 1st and two b prospects


The Coyotes are going to get more than that for Chychrun. They could get a better prospect than Robertson + 1st + more
16 janv. à 23 h 46
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Quoting: BlackwoodForVezina
Sandin or Niemela


Or both!
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Or both!


even better
17 janv. à 6 h 55
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The Coyotes are going to get more than that for Chychrun. They could get a better prospect than Robertson + 1st + more


So they are going to get more than their asking price which no one has jumped at yet. Sure bud
17 janv. à 11 h 35
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So they are going to get more than their asking price which no one has jumped at yet. Sure bud


Yes because there are better players available than Robertson and Liljegren
Robertson + Liljegren + mid to late first doesn’t get Chychrun so keep dreaming
17 janv. à 12 h 55
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Yes because there are better players available than Robertson and Liljegren
Robertson + Liljegren + mid to late first doesn’t get Chychrun so keep dreaming


I wouldn't pay that much for him anyways. I certainly wouldn't pay more than that for a 2nd pair defenceman.
 
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