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Trading 1st overall pick

Créé par: CEO
Équipe: 2022-23 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 13 janv. 2022
Publié: 16 janv. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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If Ottawa wins the lottery and decides to trade down.
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
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OTT
  1. Andersson, Rasmus
  2. Lucic, Milan
  3. Vladar, Daniel
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
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  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (OTT)
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Fair for a 1st overall pick?
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16 janv. 2022 à 2 h 2
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Why?
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16 janv. 2022 à 2 h 2
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Why?


Boredom
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16 janv. 2022 à 2 h 10
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Flames probably won't be interested in this price. Andersson is a top pairing dman, Vladar is our backup(which we need because Wolf most likely won't be ready next year) and one of the best leaders in the room even tho he is a bad contract? I don't see how this makes Calgary better. Tho I may be interested in it if Calgary made Tkachuk available so the bros can play together.
16 janv. 2022 à 2 h 12
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Flames probably won't be interested in this price. Andersson is a top pairing dman, Vladar is our backup(which we need because Wolf most likely won't be ready next year) and one of the best leaders in the room even tho he is a bad contract? I don't see how this makes Calgary better. Tho I may be interested in it if Calgary made Tkachuk available so the bros can play together.


Propose a trade involving Tkachuk and Ottawa first overall
16 janv. 2022 à 2 h 16
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So you honestly think that the 18th OA pick+Lucic+Vlader+Andersson equals the 1st OA pick? First off doubtful Lucic would even waive for Ottawa. And Vlader and Andersson don't move you up 17 spots.
16 janv. 2022 à 3 h 59
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As much as I can appreciate that fact that you value Andersson and Vladar is your backup and carries a little value as well, Lucic is a cap dump…. How are you including a cap dump in your pitch for 1st overall? That doesn’t get accepted haha
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16 janv. 2022 à 7 h 16
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Treat the 1st overall pick like Patrice Bergeron if he was 18 and had 7 guaranteed years of team control remaining because that's what Shane Wright is gonna be at minimum
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16 janv. 2022 à 9 h 22
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1. Alex Formenton is not signing that.

2. Telling Ottawa to trade the 1st overall pick for a package that includes Milan Lucic is hilarious.


Try again.
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16 janv. 2022 à 11 h 35
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Quoting: LucasRaymond23
So you honestly think that the 18th OA pick+Lucic+Vlader+Andersson equals the 1st OA pick? First off doubtful Lucic would even waive for Ottawa. And Vlader and Andersson don't move you up 17 spots.


Quoting: TheBoyDuddus
As much as I can appreciate that fact that you value Andersson and Vladar is your backup and carries a little value as well, Lucic is a cap dump…. How are you including a cap dump in your pitch for 1st overall? That doesn’t get accepted haha


Quoting: Alfie11
Treat the 1st overall pick like Patrice Bergeron if he was 18 and had 7 guaranteed years of team control remaining because that's what Shane Wright is gonna be at minimum


Quoting: sensonfire
1. Alex Formenton is not signing that.

2. Telling Ottawa to trade the 1st overall pick for a package that includes Milan Lucic is hilarious.


Try again.


Same deal but Calgary puts Wolf instead of Vladar, and adds a 2nd round pick. Fair?
16 janv. 2022 à 11 h 46
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Same deal but Calgary puts Wolf instead of Vladar, and adds a 2nd round pick. Fair?


Nope.
16 janv. 2022 à 12 h 12
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Same deal but Calgary puts Wolf instead of Vladar, and adds a 2nd round pick. Fair?


Wolf is a nice piece but I don’t think Vladar is the problem. You have a $6m camp weighing down your side of the trade. That’s significantly decreasing the value of what you’re sending over.

Also keep in mind that there were rumours in 2020 that the Rangers declined an offer from Dorion of 3rd and 5th overall for 1st. I’m not sure how much truth is behind that but I’m just using that rumour to bring context to how much a 1st overall pick is coveted.
16 janv. 2022 à 12 h 32
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Yeah if OTT is trading 1OA, its for Matthew+
16 janv. 2022 à 12 h 47
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Quoting: PLDGEY
Yeah if OTT is trading 1OA, its for Matthew+


I don't think anyone would do that. Also I'm not as convinced that Wright will be as good as some believe he is. I'd think maybe a Barzal type player.

Quoting: TheBoyDuddus
Wolf is a nice piece but I don’t think Vladar is the problem. You have a $6m camp weighing down your side of the trade. That’s significantly decreasing the value of what you’re sending over.

Also keep in mind that there were rumours in 2020 that the Rangers declined an offer from Dorion of 3rd and 5th overall for 1st. I’m not sure how much truth is behind that but I’m just using that rumour to bring context to how much a 1st overall pick is coveted.


Dorion would be crazy to offer that and the Rangers would be crazy to reject. Like compare Stutzle to Lafrennierre. Well idk man the league is strange wometimes
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16 janv. 2022 à 15 h 2
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Same deal but Calgary puts Wolf instead of Vladar, and adds a 2nd round pick. Fair?


Ottawa doesn't need goalie prospects. They have 27 y/o Murray who might just find his game again (if finally healthy) but the battle will be FEROCIOUS between Gustavsson and Sogaard. Plus there's 2 guys behind who might develop into legit goalies too

Don't really need picks too as they are stacked in u-25 talent. They want to upgrade ACTUAL players as much as possible.

Not interested in quality for quantity deal AT ALL. They keep their pick

But not sure what we're discussing though as Ottawa won't pick 1st OA. They might not even pick top-10
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17 janv. 2022 à 14 h 29
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I don't think anyone would do that. Also I'm not as convinced that Wright will be as good as some believe he is. I'd think maybe a Barzal type player.



Dorion would be crazy to offer that and the Rangers would be crazy to reject. Like compare Stutzle to Lafrennierre. Well idk man the league is strange wometimes


Barzal > MTkachuk, so not sure what youre saying there

That said, its the only trade that OTT and CGY should be doing. CGY doesnt have any pieces other than MTkachuk that fit the OTT need that merit 1OA
18 janv. 2022 à 0 h 34
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Quoting: PLDGEY
Barzal > MTkachuk, so not sure what youre saying there

That said, its the only trade that OTT and CGY should be doing. CGY doesnt have any pieces other than MTkachuk that fit the OTT need that merit 1OA


Barzal def better than Tkachuk, the package would be MT + first round pick + some more assets like Andersson
19 janv. 2022 à 11 h 33
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Barzal def better than Tkachuk, the package would be MT + first round pick + some more assets like Andersson


TBH, while I do think that Barzal is better than MTkachuk, I dont think its *that* much more, and I think OTT would benefit from financial and intangible methods by having both Tkachuks and would value him more than other teams
 
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