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Créé par: WallStreet83
Date de création initiale: 15 janv. 2022
Publié: 15 janv. 2022
Équipe: 2021-22 Stars de Dallas
Transactions
1.
DAL
  1. Bear, Ethan
  2. Suzuki, Ryan
  3. 2023 1e round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. Klingberg, John (2 100 000 $ retained)
  2. Kawaguchi, Jordan
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • John Klingberg: 2 100 000 $ (49.41%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2581 500 000 $82 136 239 $927 073 $702 500 $-636 239 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Benn, Jamie
9 500 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 4
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Seguin, Tyler
9 850 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 6
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Pavelski, Joe
7 000 000 $
AD, C
NTC
UFA - 1
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Raffl, Michael
1 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Faksa, Radek
3 250 000 $
C
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UFA - 4
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Radulov, Alexander
6 250 000 $
AD
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UFA - 1
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Kiviranta, Joel
1 050 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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Hintz, Roope
3 150 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
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Gurianov, Denis
2 550 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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Peterson, Jacob
842 500 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
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Glendening, Luke
1 500 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
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Robertson, Jason
795 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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Kero, Tanner
750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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Gardner, Rhett
750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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Suzuki, Ryan
863 333 $
C
RFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Heiskanen, Miro
8 450 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 8
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Hakanpää, Jani
1 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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Khudobin, Anton
3 333 333 $
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NTC
UFA - 2
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Lindell, Esa
5 800 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
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Holtby, Braden
2 000 000 $
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UFA - 1
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Suter, Ryan
3 650 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
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Oettinger, Jake
925 000 $
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RFA - 1
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Sekera, Andrej
1 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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Hanley, Joel
750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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Bear, Ethan
2 000 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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Bishop, Ben
4 916 667 $
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UFA - 2
Équipe de réserve
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Damiani, Riley
803 333 $ (0 $)
C
RFA - 2

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15 janv. à 23 h 20
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Seems fair. Would definitely be interesting
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15 janv. à 23 h 24
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Seems fair for both clubs.
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16 janv. à 0 h 29
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Seems right but the Canes management philosophy isn’t spending a bunch on rentals.
16 janv. à 0 h 58
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That’s the third step of a soft rebuild. The first and second are to fire Nill and Bowness in that order in intervals of 1 second.
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16 janv. à 1 h 36
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Value seems right but I don't see the need for Carolina to make this trade. Only thing they might "need" is a top 6 winger. Even that is a stretch tho.
16 janv. à 4 h 28
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RD Roster Replacement? Check
Good Prospect? Check
2022/2023 1st Round Pick? Check

Deal looks good to me
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16 janv. à 8 h 18
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Wayyy too much for a rental, CAR laughs at this. They’re all about value trades, not paying through the nose for rentals.

The most recent rental deal for a D (Savard) at the deadline that involved a 1st plus later picks to a third team to facilitate cap retention. So using that as a base, I’d expect a 1st, but not much else.

In the Canes case, they have to send $$$ out to bring anyone in, so Bear or another roster player must be included. Bear is a young (admittedly struggling) RD with a few years of team control, a valuable asset. No team is going to add the equivalent of two 1st round picks to a young roster D for 30 games of Klingberg.
16 janv. à 10 h 43
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Wayyy too much for a rental, CAR laughs at this. They’re all about value trades, not paying through the nose for rentals.

The most recent rental deal for a D (Savard) at the deadline that involved a 1st plus later picks to a third team to facilitate cap retention. So using that as a base, I’d expect a 1st, but not much else.

In the Canes case, they have to send $$$ out to bring anyone in, so Bear or another roster player must be included. Bear is a young (admittedly struggling) RD with a few years of team control, a valuable asset. No team is going to add the equivalent of two 1st round picks to a young roster D for 30 games of Klingberg.


You're comparing Savard to Klingberg?

Savard is 2 years older, had a similar cap hit and is significantly weaker than Klingberg and he still fetched at least a 1st.

And I only picked Carolina because they were mentioned a while back as being a team with interest. My deal is quite fair compared to what other players have gone for at the deadline in recent years. If you don't want him on your team that's fine but don't sit there and tell me that Klingberg is worth as much as David Savard.
16 janv. à 11 h 2
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You're comparing Savard to Klingberg?

Savard is 2 years older, had a similar cap hit and is significantly weaker than Klingberg and he still fetched at least a 1st.

And I only picked Carolina because they were mentioned a while back as being a team with interest. My deal is quite fair compared to what other players have gone for at the deadline in recent years. If you don't want him on your team that's fine but don't sit there and tell me that Klingberg is worth as much as David Savard.


Not fair at all when you look at what rentals generally return, but keep trying to convince yourself
16 janv. à 15 h 14
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Not fair at all when you look at what rentals generally return, but keep trying to convince yourself


It's fine if you want to be a homer and undervalue other team's players but just say you don't know how the trade deadline works and move on.
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16 janv. à 16 h 15
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It's fine if you want to be a homer and undervalue other team's players but just say you don't know how the trade deadline works and move on.


Please provide examples where a contending team has traded the equivalent of your ask for a rental….guess what, you won’t find any. I wouldn’t be so sure you have a complete understanding of how the “deadline works”
 
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