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Mcdavid with my sens deal

Créé par: Theozler
Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 15 janv. 2022
Publié: 15 janv. 2022
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  1. Bernard-Docker, Jacob
  2. Norris, Joshua [Droits de RFA]
  3. Stützle, Tim
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  1. Barrie, Tyson
  2. Broberg, Philip
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  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
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15 janv. 2022 à 16 h 57
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When Chychrun almost costs as much as McDavid hahahahahahah
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15 janv. 2022 à 16 h 58
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McDavid is not waiving his NMC for Ottawa.

Try again.
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15 janv. 2022 à 17 h 0
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Quoting: sensonfire
McDavid is not waiving his NMC for Ottawa.

Try again.


Did I miss the nmc? I didn’t see one
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15 janv. 2022 à 17 h 2
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Quoting: Bringer_Of_Snow
When Chychrun almost costs as much as McDavid hahahahahahah



I don’t see how that close. Docker Bette than broberg. Norris more than either oilers first. Stutzle same. And sens first could be Shane wright. Much more than Barrie
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15 janv. 2022 à 17 h 3
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Quoting: sensonfire
McDavid is not waiving his NMC for Ottawa.

Try again.


You’re correct I suppose the coils do it before it kicks in though
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15 janv. 2022 à 17 h 3
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Quoting: sensonfire
McDavid is not waiving his NMC for Ottawa.

Try again.


McDavid NMC doesn't kick in until next season so TECHNICALLY this deal could be made at the trade deadline - but Melnyk would never pay those bonuses and, IMO, Ottawa would be less likely to win the CUP in the next 5 years.
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15 janv. 2022 à 17 h 7
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Switch JBD for Sanderson and add another 1st. That’s what I think McDavid would cost
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15 janv. 2022 à 17 h 10
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Switch JBD for Sanderson and add another 1st. That’s what I think McDavid would cost


In theory yes. But as shown with the eichel deal the market isn’t always what we think. At 12.5 a year and the cost of return I think realistically mcdavid market would be ten teams max. I do think this is a pretty darn good return if he wanted out and you still wanted to compete around drai.
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15 janv. 2022 à 17 h 21
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Quoting: Theozler
In theory yes. But as shown with the eichel deal the market isn’t always what we think. At 12.5 a year and the cost of return I think realistically mcdavid market would be ten teams max. I do think this is a pretty darn good return if he wanted out and you still wanted to compete around drai.


There’s no way you are using the Eichel situation as a reference for a McDavid trade. He is a fraction of the player, in the middle of dealing with an injury with a controversial surgery, and he was open about demanding a trade.

The trade market for a player of Eichels caliber isn’t comparable to the trade market for the best hockey player on the planet.
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15 janv. 2022 à 17 h 24
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Quoting: Theozler
Did I miss the nmc? I didn’t see one


Your post takes place in 2022-2023.


McDavid's NMC kicks in at the start of the 2022-2023 season and stays in place until his contract expires.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/connor-mcdavid


McDavid declines.

Try again.
15 janv. 2022 à 17 h 25
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Quoting: sensonfire
Your post takes place in 2022-2023.


McDavid's NMC kicks in at the start of the 2022-2023 season and stays in place until his contract expires.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/connor-mcdavid


McDavid declines.

Try again.

Or they do it before it kicks in
15 janv. 2022 à 17 h 26
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Quoting: TCMonkey
McDavid NMC doesn't kick in until next season so TECHNICALLY this deal could be made at the trade deadline - but Melnyk would never pay those bonuses and, IMO, Ottawa would be less likely to win the CUP in the next 5 years.


Except, this post takes place in 2022-2023.
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15 janv. 2022 à 17 h 26
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Quoting: Bringer_Of_Snow
There’s no way you are using the Eichel situation as a reference for a McDavid trade. He is a fraction of the player, in the middle of dealing with an injury with a controversial surgery, and he was open about demanding a trade.

The trade market for a player of Eichels caliber isn’t comparable to the trade market for the best hockey player on the planet.


Ok so list the teams that a.have cap space and b. Wouldn’t destroy their depth and leave them uncompetitive
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15 janv. 2022 à 18 h 8
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Quoting: Theozler
In theory yes. But as shown with the eichel deal the market isn’t always what we think. At 12.5 a year and the cost of return I think realistically mcdavid market would be ten teams max. I do think this is a pretty darn good return if he wanted out and you still wanted to compete around drai.

Very true
15 janv. 2022 à 18 h 23
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Trouble is with the Ottawa trade, McDavid might find himself in a the the Oiler "situation". Top heavy and a reduced supporting cast.
15 janv. 2022 à 21 h 34
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Quoting: Bringer_Of_Snow
When Chychrun almost costs as much as McDavid hahahahahahah


Ottawa probably wouldn’t do Stuetzle or Norris 1 for 1 with Chychrun, definitely wouldn’t do both and certainly not with a pick that’s potentially 1st overall. Could tell you right now that they wouldn’t trade Stuetzle or Norris for that exact Chychrun package from Edmonton either, two late 1sts a struggling d prospect and a offensive RD past his prime…

Those trades aren’t even in the same stratosphere.
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16 janv. 2022 à 18 h 28
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As said in the other similar thread

Stützle, Tim : is going to be an elite forward for a long time. Sure he's only 19 playing on a rebuilding team so it might NOT be clear to everyone but project him in 2-3 years and you suddenly make a HUGE jump towards McDavid's value. He also won't cost 12.5 AAV a year

Norris, Joshua : 22 y/o 1st line center, already plays against top competition and does very well. He legitimately looks like he could score 2 goals every game. Probably going to settle as 35 goals/65 pts 2-way center.

Bernard-Docker, Jacob : will be a solid but quiet 2nd pairing D-man, won't cost a fortune but improve your overall team quality

2022 1st round pick (OTT) : wildcard asset here, could be anywhere from 1st OA to 10th OA, and there's going to be a lot of talent at the top this year, a bit similar to 2020. That's another very high end piece

Oh and McDavid ONLY has 4 years left on his contract while the 4 Sens pieces can be cost controlled for a decade. For that reason alone, I am not doing this deal.


Quoting: Bringer_Of_Snow
When Chychrun almost costs as much as McDavid hahahahahahah


Not a very good evaluation on your part lol

Bernard-Docker, Jacob vs Broberg, Philip
2022 1st round pick (OTT) vs 2022 1st round pick (EDM) + 2023 1st round pick (EDM) + Barrie, Tyson

Ottawa's first might still be more valuable but let's say it's fair here

So Norris and Stützle for nothing, a top-10 pick in 2017 re-draft and a recent 3rd OA pick in a great draft

Quoting: palhal
Trouble is with the Ottawa trade, McDavid might find himself in a the the Oiler "situation". Top heavy and a reduced supporting cast.


Tkachuk - McDavid - Batherson
Formenton - Pinto - 2ndlineRW
Paul - Greig - Brown
Crookshank - White - Boucher


2nd line RW : UFA? Trade? Sokolov? Jarventie? Boucher? Etc

I think I prefer the current group with Norris and Stutzle. Defense would be ok without JBD (means they'd have to accept Brannstrom to finally play RD or make a trade/signing)

That 1st line is amazing but is without the 1st round pick in 2022, it means one of Jarventie/Sokolov/etc absolutely needs to become a top-6 forward. Or Dorion go out and get one, something he hasn't done in years
 
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