good luck, habs fans are concinced that because Holland is dumb enough to give up a 1st for chariot that every single team they can label as a contender wants to over pay for a guy who wouldnt be a top 4 defender on a team that wasnt trying to win the lotto

i'd take a bet saying the oils would take him for a first. prob the only team in the league that would do it.

inb4 Habs fans jump in the thread and say they take that

Yeah, the oilers are gonna do a whole bunch of dumb stuff and then everyone will blame mcdavid not being good enough defensively again. It's gonna be great.

Even though we do have a ton of solid prospects in the system, I do believe we need a reliable veteran on the left side. However we can get one that wont cost us a first round pick. As Ive suggested in other posts that a solid option is Calvin De Haan.

Ok so this is where this above statement annoys me. If it were JUST Habs fans saying it, you're 100% right. No problems there. Except it isn't!

Pierre Lebrun: https://www.tsn.ca/insider-trading-ben-chiarot-drawing-interest-from-contenders-1.1729679

Elliott Freidman: https://twitter.com/nhl_watcher/status/1461404977289695234

Frank Seravalli: https://www.nhltraderumor.com/latest-ben-chiarot-rumors/

So stop saying "Habs fans". Literally every reliable trade rumor source is saying it too with most stating a 1st round pick is likely. I can't stand the exaggerated Habs fans posts as much as next person but this one is based on reliable sources.

Chiarot for a 1st may very well NOT happen but the idea of it, is not coming out of the blue by Habs fans.

except that habs fans are literally the only ones saying he WILL get a 1st rounder. None of the people you mentioned said anything other than they THINK he COULD get a 1st. Habs fans have latched onto that like it is gospel. There is no reliable source saying that the habs have been offered or a team would 100% give up a 1st, yet we get 30 posts a day here by habs fans swearing up and down that not only will he 100% get a 1st from any number of contenders, but a 1st plus.
You dont see Leafs fans posting a million threads a day about getting significant value for Holl despite Friedman (or Lebrun one of them) saying it in a radio hit a while back. This hype train is 100% habs fan driven and they deserve all the crap they get for it

Of course they've latched onto the idea that he could get a first-round pick, it's an Arm Chair GM website - that's the whole point.

Lol what? They don't with 100% certainty because no one other than the GM can say that. They all think they could fetch a 1st. So how else are the Habs fans supposed to relay that in a trade offer on here?

Reliable source? Literally the only people who offer reliable sources that don't work for teams are guys like Freidman, Lebrun, etc, and they all say they could get a 1st rounder. Are you expecting a rumor to come out that "X" Gm has stated that he is ready to pay a 1st for Chiarot? When has a rumor ever come out that specifically? Never.

This is no different than any other rumor that is used on this site, but people don't like that its coming from Habs fans. Sory there are so many on the site but that's not Habs fans fault you don't like it.

If you don't like seeing a million Habs fans posts, here is suggestion for you: DON'T CLICK ON THEM! Problem solved.

The point is to take one throw away sentence from someone who says thousands of opinions a year and treat it like it's an undeniable fact that will totally happen?

Perhaps you should go back through all the Leafs threads from JUST today. Leafs fans have proposed Holl in almost every trade for a decent return. One such crazy fan even proposed Holl + Liljegren + 22 1st for Romanov! Romanov's return would be significantly better than a bottom 4 D prospect + Holl (a bottom pairing D man) and a late 1st

Why wouldn't i click on them? It's fun pointing out how bad the trades are. You're the one who came at me with some nonsense about this being some sort of u spurred fact that chariot is gonna get a 1st despite no one saying that.
If you dont like what i say DONT CLICK ON IT! Problem solved

I love how you used a trade where a habs player isn't worth a single part of the leafs side of the trade as proof that leafs fans over value their guys

it's a for fun, make-believe armchair GM site, lighten up and have a little fun. you've gotta be a real miserable person to be this triggered over a capfriendly post

Im having lots of fun, buncha people are getting really mad because they think their bad players are good and i pointed out that they are bad, then they are telling me im triggered

don't bother with this guy. all he does in incite trouble and try to pick fights with other fans.

Lol non sense? Its literally backed by credible sources! You are the only one with zero credibility. How are you missing this?

I never said I don't like seeing non Habs fans say he isn't worth it, just that it is annoying.. You did but nice try.

Name one credible source that stated the habs will be offered a 1st rounder that isnt just someone speculating.
Oh, and name one time i said i didnt like seeing a million chariot posts by habs fans.
You wanna play word games you gotta do better than that

Pierre Lebrun, Elliotte Freidman, Frank Seravalli. on and on. These are some of most credible people in the media. Yes its speculation. All rumors are speculation. Like I said, a source specifically stating "X" player will traded for exactly "X" return, does not exist. Only the GMs know this so we will never know until it happens.



So I guess you like seeing 30 posts a day by Habs fans? Or did I have to find a literal quote of you saying it for it to be true.

As I stated earlier to Campabee, don't waste your time with this individual. They have nothing better to do than pick fights with other fans.

Statements like this are why everyone views you as a troll. Romanov is worth a high 1st + 2nd where in that package is the value of a high 1st (between 6-15th OVA)? Holl is worth a 2nd (I like him but he is only marginally better than Dermott and Kulak), the late 1st (likely range will be 25th-32nd) isn't worth 6th-15th, and Liljigren has potential but no more than Struble who is also worth a 2nd or 3rd. You like pointing out how Montreal fans packages are quantity over quality, well that Leafs package is quantity over quality. Fair value for Romanov is Amirov + 2nd or Sandin straight up, but it would make no sense for either side to do Sandin for Romanov and Montreal would want more from the Leafs than Amirov + 2nd because they are such close rivals and Montreal has no need to move Romanov.

I think you over value Romanov
He will probably be a solid 2nd pairing guy, but he isn’t worth a high 1st RD pick +

I really hope you're trying to miss the point on the 'credible' people part as i have made it very very very obvious that even if you do find these people credible, them saying that they think a player is worth X is very much different than saying that a GM is going to offer that price for such a player. The issue at hand is that Habs fans here have taken this blatant speculation based off nothing and have turned it into a guarentee that they are going to not only get a 1st for chariot from one of half the teams in the league, but that teams will be throwing additional assets at them to do it.

and yes, i do enjoy it because it's hilarious ,they're gonna be really let down when they dont get half of what they think they are gonna

nah, people love to accuse me of being a troll because i like to point out that their players arnt worth near what they think they are and dont honey the medicine while doing it. For instance, you think Romanov is worth a mid 1st rounder and more, which he is not. He has done nothing to prove he's even going to turn out to be as good as Holl let alone be worth him in a trade straight up. He cant put up points, he's getting obliterated defensively and if he didnt hit no one outside of montreal would know his name.
He isnt even in Sandin's league as a player or value.

Look I can't speak for every single Habs fan on here and I certainly haven't seen literally every Habs fans comment on this forum on the matter, so I don't know what you've seen. So I can only generalize from what I've seen. Anyone who says for certain about anything is simply exaggerating. We're all just speculating. You're speculating Chiarot won't get a 1st. Habs fans are speculating he will based on numerous reports from credible "insiders" stating that they should get a 1st.

You seem to be annoyed by SOME Habs fans stating as if it were a fact already or guaranteeing it will happen as if they're clairvoyant or something and by all accounts I agree with you on that point, no one knows for sure. Not you, me, Lebrun, knows for a guarantee that it will happen. What those Habs fans should be saying is that they believe it will happen based these reasons. Which based on those credible people opinions, HAS merit.

The idea of Chiarot being traded for a 1st was not born of Habs fans hype. It was born of insiders in the media stating it first. Habs fans certainly have run with it and if some have "guaranteed" it, well no one can guarantee anything they have no control over. But that doesn't change the fact that Chiarot for a 1st isn't unfounded. Too many people have stated it for it to be unfounded.

Chiarot may very well not get a 1st rounder but stating that the idea of it is "Habs hype" is not true. Too many in the media have said it for it to not be something Habs fan can use basis for their opinion. So Habs fans using that as basis for a speculative trade, is 100% valid. Once again, doesn't mean it will happen.