SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Leafs need a Romanov type of defensemen

Créé par: bald_and_bankrupt
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 15 janv. 2022
Publié: 15 janv. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Romanov knows how to lay big hits
Transactions
MTL
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. Liljegren, Timothy
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
2023
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
2024
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $79 188 950 $0 $637 500 $2 311 050 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
950 000 $950 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 645 000 $1 645 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance637 500 $$638K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
894 167 $894 167 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ (1 375 000 $$1M1 375 000 $$1M)
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
725 000 $725 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
G
UFA - 1

Code d'intégration

  • Pour afficher cette équipe sur un autre site Web ou blog, ajoutez ce iFrame à la page appropriée
  • Personnalisez les dimensions dans le code IFrame ci-dessous pour adapter votre site de manière appropriée. Minimum recommandé: 400px.

Texte intégré

Cliquer pour surligner
15 janv. 2022 à 13 h 1
#26
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2019
Messages: 19,545
Mentions "j'aime": 7,343
Quoting: GMs
You ONLY watch Leafs game. How can you comment about other teams player. Romanov is playing better than Muzzin (I don’t know what Muzzin have this year but it’s kind of a down year for him), Holl, Dermott, Liljegren. Reilly and Brodie are better but I won’t pronounce on Romy and Sandin, both are great. But Romanov is our best dman this year with Chiarot, he isn’t playing bad at all. He’ve been solid all around


no, i watch lots of teams play. Romanov is not playing better than a single leafs defender right now. He's been awful. Utterly utterly awful. The fact you think both he and chariot are haveing good seasons is very telling. These guys are by far the habs worse defenders.
It's crazy how habs fans keep insisting their defenders are SO much better than the leafs when the leafs are currently a top 5 defensive team in the league and the habs are a lotto team from the top down. The habs are bad because their players are bad, especially the ones playing a lot like chariot and Romanov. Justin Holl would be the Habs best defender .
15 janv. 2022 à 13 h 3
#27
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2019
Messages: 19,545
Mentions "j'aime": 7,343
Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
A legit top 4 on the 2nd worst defensive team in hockey this season. If he was that good I'd think Montreal would be much better.


it's amazing how all these habs players are so amazing and good and yet the team is bad. It must be dark magics
15 janv. 2022 à 13 h 4
#28
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 24,997
Mentions "j'aime": 7,855
Quoting: Lochness1202
Holl gets exposed every night. If not, then just keep him in your top 4. Simple solution. But many leaf fans know he’s not top 4 material anymore


This is taking everything out of context. I would upgrade over Holl if the price is right. However to say he gets exposed every night is awfully silly. Toronto is a top 3 team defensively this season. Not in their division but in the entire league. So if the weakest member to the defence is playing top 4 minutes and helping the team to being top 3 defensively than perhaps he's not bad. If he was getting exposed, he'd be a minus player and the team would get scored on a lot. Which is factually not the case at all. Your logic is absent of reality.
15 janv. 2022 à 13 h 9
#29
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 24,997
Mentions "j'aime": 7,855
Quoting: Black61
Habs tell leafs where to go and how to get there.

Romanov easily of that group is the best player long term. Hes the youngest as well. Liljegren is quickly proving hes not top 4 material and Holl is too old and a ufa after next year. The late 1st likely wont end up being as good either.

Theres 0 reason for the habs to do this.


Romanov is a bottom pair defender on one of the worst defensive teams in the league. That easily makes him a non roster player for most good teams. The Leafs have 7 defenceman ahead of him. I can say that because TO is a top 3 team defensively. A bottom pair guy on a bad team isn't a top 4 guy on a good team. Just like a 4th liner on a bad team isn't a top 6 you on a good team. Many top 6 players on bad teams would have trouble sticking in lineup on good teams. Romanov is massively overrated here.
15 janv. 2022 à 13 h 11
#30
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 24,997
Mentions "j'aime": 7,855
Quoting: MrDinkiee
Teams would love to have a Romanov. No one wants a Holl or Dermott


What's it like still living the dead puck era? Do you spend your weekends watching Rock em sock em vhs's and wishing if you wouldn't have hurt your shoulder back in 82 you would have shown all these soft players how a man plays? Just living in the past.
15 janv. 2022 à 13 h 13
#31
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 24,997
Mentions "j'aime": 7,855
Quoting: GMs
You ONLY watch Leafs game. How can you comment about other teams player. Romanov is playing better than Muzzin (I don’t know what Muzzin have this year but it’s kind of a down year for him), Holl, Dermott, Liljegren. Reilly and Brodie are better but I won’t pronounce on Romy and Sandin, both are great. But Romanov is our best dman this year with Chiarot, he isn’t playing bad at all. He’ve been solid all around


Then why do you guys get wrecked all the time? Weird how your best defenceman would be top guys on all other teams and yet can't keep the puck out of your own net. Not sure you understand how the game works.
15 janv. 2022 à 15 h 33
#32
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2019
Messages: 1,058
Mentions "j'aime": 457
Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
A legit top 4 on the 2nd worst defensive team in hockey this season. If he was that good I'd think Montreal would be much better.


One player does not make a team and you know that…chychrun is going to get a 1st/ top prospect and player yet the coyotes suck. Does chychrun suck too??
15 janv. 2022 à 17 h 16
#33
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 24,997
Mentions "j'aime": 7,855
Quoting: Lochness1202
One player does not make a team and you know that…chychrun is going to get a 1st/ top prospect and player yet the coyotes suck. Does chychrun suck too??


I think he's got a lot of talent but he's definitely overrated right now. He's not part of the answer in Arizona why would he be the answer elsewhere? But this is how this site works. Everyone is bias but tell themselves they aren't. So how people see stuff on here is already flawed big time. On top of that 60-75% of this site is populated by people who hate the leafs as much or more than they hate their own team. Which makes matters much worse. Then there is the mob think that influences everything as well. For example, it's still a common accepted truth that TO's defence sucks, bottom half of the league for sure. That despite them being 3rd overall in goals against per game.

So this is why you have the majority of people on here saying ridiculous stuff all the time. Like Romanov is a legit top 4 defenceman. He's a decent young player on a downright terrible team, he's not some saviour, if he was the results would be better. He has talent and some upside but hasn't proven much at all. If he was on a better team, he may not even be in the lineup because better teams have better players.

This is why Sandin and Liljegren are only playing 3rd pair minutes or rotating in and out. Most other teams don't have guys like Rielly, Muzzin, Brodie ahead of their young guys. Who does Montreal have? Chiarot? He likely wouldn't make the Leafs unless Keefe wanted a big slow PK guy on the 3rd pair. I know you'll go off saying Holl is a 7th defenceman and yes he did struggle for a bit there but he's rebounded and has played much better as of late. If Holl was a 7th defenceman on any other team, why is TO a top 3 team defensively? That notion just doesn't balance with the results.

Just as saying Romanov is a legit top 4 defender on any team is ridiculous. The results show something completely different. But as I mentioned, reality doesn't matter much here. Just mob think and bias. So hab fans will continue to say Romanov is an all-star and worth insane prices because they like him a lot....mainly because there is nothing else to like on their team right now.
15 janv. 2022 à 19 h 6
#34
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2019
Messages: 1,058
Mentions "j'aime": 457
Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
I think he's got a lot of talent but he's definitely overrated right now. He's not part of the answer in Arizona why would he be the answer elsewhere? But this is how this site works. Everyone is bias but tell themselves they aren't. So how people see stuff on here is already flawed big time. On top of that 60-75% of this site is populated by people who hate the leafs as much or more than they hate their own team. Which makes matters much worse. Then there is the mob think that influences everything as well. For example, it's still a common accepted truth that TO's defence sucks, bottom half of the league for sure. That despite them being 3rd overall in goals against per game.

So this is why you have the majority of people on here saying ridiculous stuff all the time. Like Romanov is a legit top 4 defenceman. He's a decent young player on a downright terrible team, he's not some saviour, if he was the results would be better. He has talent and some upside but hasn't proven much at all. If he was on a better team, he may not even be in the lineup because better teams have better players.

This is why Sandin and Liljegren are only playing 3rd pair minutes or rotating in and out. Most other teams don't have guys like Rielly, Muzzin, Brodie ahead of their young guys. Who does Montreal have? Chiarot? He likely wouldn't make the Leafs unless Keefe wanted a big slow PK guy on the 3rd pair. I know you'll go off saying Holl is a 7th defenceman and yes he did struggle for a bit there but he's rebounded and has played much better as of late. If Holl was a 7th defenceman on any other team, why is TO a top 3 team defensively? That notion just doesn't balance with the results.

Just as saying Romanov is a legit top 4 defender on any team is ridiculous. The results show something completely different. But as I mentioned, reality doesn't matter much here. Just mob think and bias. So hab fans will continue to say Romanov is an all-star and worth insane prices because they like him a lot....mainly because there is nothing else to like on their team right now.

This is honestly too long to read…stopped after 1st sentence
15 janv. 2022 à 19 h 20
#35
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 24,997
Mentions "j'aime": 7,855
Quoting: Lochness1202
This is honestly too long to read…stopped after 1st sentence


If a sentence is too long for you, then there is no point having a rational conversation.
15 janv. 2022 à 19 h 36
#36
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2019
Messages: 1,058
Mentions "j'aime": 457
Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
If a sentence is too long for you, then there is no point having a rational conversation.


No a sentence is fine….even 2-3. But when someone writes an essay on a hockey forum….
15 janv. 2022 à 20 h 50
#37
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 24,997
Mentions "j'aime": 7,855
Quoting: Lochness1202
No a sentence is fine….even 2-3. But when someone writes an essay on a hockey forum….


Romanov is a 3rd pair guy in TO if he beat out Liljegren but I am not sure he would.
15 janv. 2022 à 21 h 21
#38
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2019
Messages: 1,058
Mentions "j'aime": 457
Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Romanov is a 3rd pair guy in TO if he beat out Liljegren but I am not sure he would.


If he were in Toronto, he would be behind Reilly, Brodie, usually Muzzin although he’s been pretty awful this year. He would be above Holl, Tim and Sandin especially given what he brings.
15 janv. 2022 à 23 h 11
#39
Evans truther
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2019
Messages: 2,506
Mentions "j'aime": 1,432
Remember when Montreal took him early on in the second round and everyone was like 'Who?'?
 
Répondre
To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
Question:
Options:
Ajouter une option
Soumettre le sondage