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What the Colorado Avalanche look like today if the Flyers took Cale Makar

Créé par: sensonfire
Équipe: 2021-22 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 13 janv. 2022
Publié: 13 janv. 2022
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    Bobby Clarke said on a podcast that the Flyers scouting staff in 2017 wanted to take Cale Makar at 2nd overall.


    Then Flyers GM Ron Hextall wanted Brandon Wheat Kings prospect Nolan Patrick instead.

    Whenever there's an argument between the GM and the scouting staff, the GM always wins.


    It's a fact of life.



    Anyway, here's the podcast:


    https://twitter.com/andystrickland/status/1480930459282550787
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    DAL
      Let's say the Dallas Stars still take Miro Heiskanen at 3rd overall.
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      COL
      1. Patrick, Nolan
      Détails additionnels:
      Who would Colorado have taken at 4th overall?


      With Nico Hischier, Cale Makar and Miro Heiskanen all off the board?
      VGK
        Would the Avs have taken Nolan Patrick at 4th overall?


        Or would they have taken someone else?


        I'm curious to know what everybody thinks.
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        PHI
          If Colorado took Nolan Patrick at 4th overall, the two trades that sent him to Vegas last July never happen.
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          13 janv. 2022 à 9 h 58
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          Patrick or EP are the obvious answers. I'm curious how far Patrick would've fallen if PHI hadn't selected him though.
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          13 janv. 2022 à 10 h 1
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          This has me concerned about the Penguins future because if Hextall doesn’t listen to his scouts then he may draft his next Nolan Patrick
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          13 janv. 2022 à 10 h 23
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          Feel like it has to be Pettersson. COL had a big need at D when he was taken, but he and Heiskanen are clearly a level above every other D taken in that draft.
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          13 janv. 2022 à 10 h 33
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          those scouts said it was actually Heiskanen, not makar. It was in Friedmans 32 thoughts, he reached out to flyers scouts
          13 janv. 2022 à 10 h 53
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          Quoting: ZPirtle
          Feel like it has to be Pettersson. COL had a big need at D when he was taken, but he and Heiskanen are clearly a level above every other D taken in that draft.


          it probably would have Patrick. the year before Avs hired the Wheat Kings head scout as an amateur scout, who is now the head of avs amateur scouting today
          He was the reason the Avs had no issues drafting in the Junior A with Makar, Jost, and Newhook. If there was no makar, Klippenstien would have been chiming that the avs go after his boy Patrick, he was the who got him as a Wheat King
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          13 janv. 2022 à 11 h 1
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          Quoting: IconicHawk
          This has me concerned about the Penguins future because if Hextall doesn’t listen to his scouts then he may draft his next Nolan Patrick


          Brian Burke wont let that happen
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          13 janv. 2022 à 11 h 3
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          Well this would suck

          The Avs probably wouldve gone after a big UFA RHD though. Its not like they would just sit on 8M+ in cap space. Maybe they go hard after Pietrangelo in 2020 or Hamilton in 2021
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          13 janv. 2022 à 12 h 30
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          Quoting: coga16
          those scouts said it was actually Heiskanen, not makar. It was in Friedmans 32 thoughts, he reached out to flyers scouts


          Based on the context of 32 thoughts, it appeared as if Friedman successfully reached out to only 1 Flyers scout for confirmation and then left it at that.

          For all we know, it might have been an Amateur scout for the Flyers that was assigned to Europe and that was really high on Heiskanen.

          Saying "those scouts said it was actually Heiskanen, not Makar" is misleading.



          This is what Friedman's 32 thoughts actually said:

          Thought #11

          Asked about Clarke’s comments, one scout laughed, “It was Heiskanen, not Makar. Close enough.”

          https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/32-thoughts-oilers-making-serious-attempt-get-evander-kane/
          13 janv. 2022 à 15 h 0
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          I have heard the Avs wanted Patrick. Thankfully things worked out as they did (not the Patrick injury issues, of course) and Makar is an Av. But their roster would not look exactly like it does right now except without Makar and with Patrick - a player like Makar changes how you build your team and greatly effects your style of play. The roster would likely look pretty different had they not gotten Makar.
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