Lundell is probably one of the most untouchable players for the Panthers, can’t see them moving him.

obviously the panthers say no

Honest question, in what world do you think florida accecpts this? like how do you even think about it enough to make a acgm out of it

Florida has no good reason to trade Lundell

Chiarot should net a 1st.
Lehkonen should net a 2nd.
Retention is worth more.

This isnt a bad offer, but Florida has no reason to pull the trigger

Lundell is likely off limits, especially for rentals

As a Habs fan I would like to apologize to the entirety of cap friendly for the absurdity of some of my comrade's posts.

What in tarnation

Stop trading for lundell
He is far better than both of those players and he is only 20.
Panthers have no reason to trade him.

As a Jets fan I'd offer Scheifele for Lundell but idk if Florida would take it.

If Florida was willing to trade Lundell to Montreal they'd definitely want something better/more then this and to be honest I can't think of much that Montreal would have that'd interest Florida besides Suzuki but Montreal isn't trading him.

correct, its not bad, its horrible.

I would imagine based on age/contract that Winnipeg would need to add something pretty big. Florida loves Lundell and I don’t see any reason for them to move a guy that talented on an ELC while in their window

It’s a brutal offer

what if caufield was added?

Add Suzuki to that deal, or the Panthers don't have any reason to move Lundell

Lundell is a top prospect. Most teams don't trade top prospects at all, ever. Let alone for guys like Chiarot and Lehkonen. Who aren't bad players but they're just not the caliber of players needed in a trade for another teams top prospect.

Retaining on pending free agents in a trade only increases their value slightly. Chiarot and Lehkonen are both free agents so they're only owed approx 1/5 of the remaining year of their salary assuming the trade happens at the TDL. In the grand scheme of things, that isn't very much. Retaining only returns a much better value when the players involved have term left on their contract.

Retaining salary on rentals is more about ensuring the team makes the trade with you than it is about increasing what you'll get in value back. The other team may add a 3rd or a 4th more just to seal the deal. But in no way would it bump the value you get back to another teams top prospect. It has happened in the past obviously, Filip Forsberg for Martin Erat, etc, but they almost unanimously lost those trades and GMs are starting to get wise to the idea of trading their premium young talent.

This is like asking what you would want for Suzuki