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Playoff Ready

Créé par: TrueCanuck
Équipe: 2021-22 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 10 janv. 2022
Publié: 10 janv. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. Getzlaf, Ryan (1 500 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Getzlaf has been having a bit of a bounce back season but is still an elite playmaker. Flames have been looking for a right handed shooting forward and Getzlaf could be the that fits that need. He brings a wealth of playoff and championship experience and would fit Sutter's system perfectly.
Anaheim's reported asking price last season was a 2nd round pick, and with Calgary having multiple of them I could see them meeting that price. The only dilemma here is if Anaheim is still in the playoff hunt around saline and if they're determined to make a run at playoffs or not. But value wise I can't see them getting anymore than this.
ANA
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (FLA)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
Conditional 2022 round pick (FLA):
- Anaheim receives the later of the 2 picks that Calgary currently owns (Florida's and their own)
2.
CGY
  1. Toffoli, Tyler (2 125 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Going back to Sutter's days in LA, Toffoli was his go to guy for goals and he again fits the need of a top 6 right handed shooter for the Flames. Calgary's cap situation makes this a bit of a tough deal, so retention would be needed to make it work. The Habs have the cap space to facilitate the retention and in the process they pick up picks and prospects to help their rebuild.
The general price for Toffoli should be right around a 1st and a 2nd round pick, I've then added Tyler Pitlick as a cap neutralizer and compensated Montreal with a 3rd round pick for taking Pitlick for the cap reasons. Due to the retention, I've given Montreal a very solid centre prospect in Emilio Pettersson - who could be a very good 2C behind Suzuki in the future.
It's a steep price for Calgary to pay, but with the retention needed the price will go up & the Flames have a shot to go deep in the playoffs with the right moves made.
MTL
  1. Emilio Pettersen, Mathias
  2. Pitlick, Tyler
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (CGY)
Rachats de contrats
Enfoui
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2022
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Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
2023
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Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $71 889 166 $0 $1 515 000 $9 610 834 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 375 000 $6 375 000 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
0 $0 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 500 000 $$2M)
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 6
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
801 666 $801 666 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 425 000 $2 425 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 237 500 $1 237 500 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Flames de Calgary
750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 950 000 $1 950 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Flames de Calgary
800 000 $800 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
750 000 $750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
800 000 $800 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Flames de Calgary
900 000 $900 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AD
UFA - 1

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10 janv. 2022 à 14 h 2
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Mtl accept that
10 janv. 2022 à 14 h 5
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Habs ask for Dustin Wolf since you are retaining for 3 years
10 janv. 2022 à 14 h 16
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Ducks are playing better than the Flames. No way they trade their captain to a rival.
10 janv. 2022 à 14 h 29
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Quoting: HabsIsland
Habs ask for Dustin Wolf since you are retaining for 3 years

Why are you just over the top on every trade offer today? Like come on this offer is already more than we could ever imagine in the real world and you're nitpicking to add their best goalie prospect (Like if goaltender was really our issue in Montreal with Carey, Allen here and Primeau, Dobes, Nichow and Vrbetic in the pipeline...). Only two years of retention for that haul, I'd be banging that 'Deal' button as fast as Bill Cosby was assaulting women.
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10 janv. 2022 à 14 h 32
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Quoting: gary_bettman
Ducks are playing better than the Flames. No way they trade their captain to a rival.


Try reading the description before you comment next time and then try again.
10 janv. 2022 à 14 h 36
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Would you be of interest for Radulov at 50% retention? Looking for a team that would be interested, the price would be somewhat cheap.
10 janv. 2022 à 14 h 40
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Would you be of interest for Radulov at 50% retention? Looking for a team that would be interested, the price would be somewhat cheap.


Don't really think the fit is there in Calgary. The primary need is right handed shooting forwards and Radulov just adds another lefty to the mix and takes a spot away from a righty that would be brought in
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Don't really think the fit is there in Calgary. The primary need is right handed shooting forwards and Radulov just adds another lefty to the mix and takes a spot away from a righty that would be brought in


Fair, just thought I’d ask.
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Quoting: ColonelX
Why are you just over the top on every trade offer today? Like come on this offer is already more than we could ever imagine in the real world and you're nitpicking to add their best goalie prospect (Like if goaltender was really our issue in Montreal with Carey, Allen here and Primeau, Dobes, Nichow and Vrbetic in the pipeline...). Only two years of retention for that haul, I'd be banging that 'Deal' button as fast as Bill Cosby was assaulting women.


Really? Toffoli should be able to get a late 1st+ without retention. Is something like a 2nd, a 30 year old 4th liner (moved for cap purposes) and a soon to be 22 year old undersized center that isn't established in the AHL worth that kind of retention to Montreal? I don't think so. Especially since the Habs probably need all of their retention slots to move other players.
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Mtl accept that


Quoting: HabsIsland
Habs ask for Dustin Wolf since you are retaining for 3 years


Quoting: ColonelX
Why are you just over the top on every trade offer today? Like come on this offer is already more than we could ever imagine in the real world and you're nitpicking to add their best goalie prospect (Like if goaltender was really our issue in Montreal with Carey, Allen here and Primeau, Dobes, Nichow and Vrbetic in the pipeline...). Only two years of retention for that haul, I'd be banging that 'Deal' button as fast as Bill Cosby was assaulting women.


Quoting: Burnout
Really? Toffoli should be able to get a late 1st+ without retention. Is something like a 2nd, a 30 year old 4th liner (moved for cap purposes) and a soon to be 22 year old undersized center that isn't established in the AHL worth that kind of retention to Montreal? I don't think so. Especially since the Habs probably need all of their retention slots to move other players.


Just more proof that you can never please Habs fans 😂
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10 janv. 2022 à 14 h 54
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Quoting: TrueCanuck
Just more proof that you can never please Habs fans 😂


He brought up valid points.

Personally i think Montreal needs to keep their Cap retention spots for Price, Gallagher, Petry. Toffoli is already a good contract.
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He brought up valid points.

Personally i think Montreal needs to keep their Cap retention spots for Price, Gallagher, Petry. Toffoli is already a good contract.


I just meant that half clearly don't agree and half do 😂
10 janv. 2022 à 15 h 7
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I just meant that half clearly don't agree and half do 😂



Lol, when does anyone ever agree on this site?

Montreal could retain 50% on Price, add a 1st and take back nothing but Cap Dump and half the non Montreal or Edmonton fans will still say Montreal screwed them over...
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#HIOHF

But seriously, unless I'm misinterpreting this:

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The general price for Toffoli should be right around a 1st and a 2nd round pick, I've then added Tyler Pitlick as a cap neutralizer and compensated Montreal with a 3rd round pick for taking Pitlick for the cap reasons. Due to the retention, I've given Montreal a very solid centre prospect in Emilio Pettersson - who could be a very good 2C behind Suzuki in the future.


I don't see how Emilio Pettersson is worth 2.125 retention for multiple years to Montreal. Especially since, if Montreal was inclined to do that, the market for Toffoli probably grows significantly because you're getting a veteran, playoff performer RW goal scorer with strong underlying numbers at the price of 3rd/4th liner for 3 playoff runs.
10 janv. 2022 à 15 h 22
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1. Getzlaf isn’t available

2. If he was, we could get more elsewhere
10 janv. 2022 à 15 h 47
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
1. Getzlaf isn’t available

2. If he was, we could get more elsewhere


Lol. The ask last season was a 2nd and no one bit on it and you think he's worth more when he's a year older?

Good try though.
10 janv. 2022 à 15 h 50
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Lol. The ask last season was a 2nd and no one bit on it and you think he's worth more when he's a year older?

Good try though.


Where did you see that that was the ask
10 janv. 2022 à 15 h 56
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You're doing okay trying to send enough to Montreal. The problem is the retention. Montreal would be better off taking less than retaining on Toffoli.
His value doesn't go up by one notch with retention, it goes up a few notches. His contract wouldn't be good, it would be amazing. The difference between good and amazing is significant.

That said, you shouldn't even be looking for retention on Toffoli because of the inflation of the price to acquire him. Figure the money out elsewhere if necessary. It's easier to shave $2M off your roster than it is to acquire $2M in retention for multiple years.
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10 janv. 2022 à 16 h 12
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Quoting: TrueCanuck
Try reading the description before you comment next time and then try again.


No thanks.
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Where did you see that that was the ask


Some guy in some forum said he heard some guy in some forum said it,.
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Some guy in some forum said he heard some guy in some forum said it,.


Ahhh them forums man
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Ahhh them forums man


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