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Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 10 janv. 2022
Publié: 10 janv. 2022
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My question is, how reliable is Jim Matheson of the Edmonton Journal? Is he fair at assessing value of players or is he just as bad as us here on CapFriendly? The reason I ask is because he proposed the following trade, which I think is an overpay but hey what do I know.
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  1. Bourgault, Xavier [Liste de réserve]
  2. Keith, Duncan
  3. Lavoie, Raphael
  4. Turris, Kyle
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
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The trade by Matheson was Bourgault + 2022 1st + cap offset (Keith in this case) for Anderson. Again this seems very high to me hence the question asked at the top.

Chiarots retained value is closer a 1st + Lavoie + Turris
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  1. Anderson, Josh
  2. Chiarot, Ben (1 750 000 $ retained)
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10 janv. 2022 à 13 h 33
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not a chance this happens. hes out to lunch.

First Keith will not move his NMC
second holland has shown he is very adverse to moving 1st rounders let alone 2 of them.
third. If EDM wanted Chairot they would have traded for him when they literally had no LD who were healthy.
10 janv. 2022 à 13 h 35
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Every member of the Oilers media - save for Lowetide and Daniel Nugent-Bowman - are hacks that neither understand the sport nor the management side of the game.

Matheson might actually be senile.
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10 janv. 2022 à 13 h 35
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Jim is not reliable. Lots of the media are as bad as us. It seems to be a big over payment by the Oilers. Doesn't really make sense for Edmonton or value wise.
10 janv. 2022 à 13 h 36
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keith isnt going anywhere. At minimum edmonton would need to move kassian or barrie to make room for anderson.
10 janv. 2022 à 13 h 37
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Quoting: mm1010
not a chance this happens. hes out to lunch.

First Keith will not move his NMC
second holland has shown he is very adverse to moving 1st rounders let alone 2 of them.
third. If EDM wanted Chairot they would have traded for him when they literally had no LD who were healthy.


The Chiarot trade was only to make money work and there is already interest from the Oilers. I knew Keith had a NMC and only used him to show a cap offset, that could really be any player you need to add to make the cap work.
10 janv. 2022 à 13 h 38
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Every member of the Oilers media - save for Lowetide and Daniel Nugent-Bowman - are hacks that neither understand the sport nor the management side of the game.

Matheson might actually be senile.


Bob stauffer, seravalli, and Friedman are about the only reliable ones for edmonton.

Matheson has screws loose, the whole media is proposing trades right now though.
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10 janv. 2022 à 13 h 38
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Every member of the Oilers media - save for Lowetide and Daniel Nugent-Bowman - are hacks that neither understand the sport nor the management side of the game.

Matheson might actually be senile.


Quoting: Gary_The_Bettman
Jim is not reliable. Lots of the media are as bad as us. It seems to be a big over payment by the Oilers. Doesn't really make sense for Edmonton or value wise.


That is what I was thinking lol, hey if he was right though Montreal would take that and run lol. So I had to ask lol
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10 janv. 2022 à 13 h 40
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I love josh Anderson but I think habs have to do this. Equivalent of 3 firsts…would be hard to pass up for sure
10 janv. 2022 à 13 h 40
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Every member of the Oilers media - save for Lowetide and Daniel Nugent-Bowman - are hacks that neither understand the sport nor the management side of the game.

Matheson might actually be senile.


"The King of Royal Pizza" Bob Stauffer
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10 janv. 2022 à 13 h 41
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Thanks to everyone for the replies, I figured the source was unreliable.
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10 janv. 2022 à 13 h 53
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Jim is a smart guy and all but isn’t any kind of insider and is just like any of us coming up with wacked out ideas. This would be a no go for a variety of reasons I’m sure others have already pointed out.
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Quoting: Lochness1202
I love josh Anderson but I think habs have to do this. Equivalent of 3 firsts…would be hard to pass up for sure


Of course they would the question was, how reliable was the source and as expected the source wasn't very reliable lol
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Every member of the Oilers media - save for Lowetide and Daniel Nugent-Bowman - are hacks that neither understand the sport nor the management side of the game.

Matheson might actually be senile.


I’d throw in Jason Gregor as a very good reliable media voice in Edmonton.
10 janv. 2022 à 14 h 19
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Quoting: Zmach
Bob stauffer, seravalli, and Friedman are about the only reliable ones for edmonton.

Matheson has screws loose, the whole media is proposing trades right now though.


As much as I maintain a strong dislike for most of Stauffer's opinions, if it comes from his mouth it may as well be gospel as he's functioned much like an organizational litmus test and mouthpiece for years now.

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I’d throw in Jason Gregor as a very good reliable media voice in Edmonton.


Gregor's reliable but he's also one of the worst professionals in the industry. Great source, terrible human being.
 
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