While I think Barrie has some value to *certain* teams, I'm not sure how it would make sense for the Habs to take him. The Habs have approximately $76.155 mil tied up in cap for next year.

barrie holds no value for montreal. (not that he as no value for others but he doesn't fit with the rebuild) so for you the second is enough for us to give you chariot and take on a contract we don't want?

No, that's not realistic. Edmonton declines.

More realistic than adding a first

honestly straight up seems fair. habs need puck movers and rd and oilers can use a steady physical dman.

it wouldn't work the habs next season unless they make other moves.

I dont think the Cap matters, we are about to overturn this roster. But i agree, Barrie doesnt fit the Habs wants right now and a 2nd isnt enough for us to take him on.

What good puck moving d man do the Habs base, and also, what good RH D man do they have?

Good trade, Habs flip Barrie at deadline. Dude led all Dman in points last year he has decent value

that's the problem the goal is not to be good

A first round pick is more realistic as per Friedman and many others. Habs will certainly have to retain salary but that's not a problem. Barrie is not a player the Habs need and has more cap and term. Even then, Not sure why EDM would add Chiarot only to lose Barrie in the process. If they want Chiarot its to add to their defense core, not swap out.

Chiarot is probably heading to Fla or Stl based Friedman latest piece anyway. Edm's 1st is too valuable at the moment to trade and Habs could get a late 1st from a team higher in the standings who could use a sturdy dman.

Chiarot to EDM made sense when Edm was at the top of the standings, now they'd be risking a mid round 1st which would be a too heavy pick for Chiarot.

more importantly, why does Montreal need to fill this hole at the start of a rebuild?

Chiarot is a bum and probably the most overrated dman there is. He would be a very EDM type of move.

St. Louis FANS hate when we post Chiarot to the Blues... So we'll have to flood the Panthers because...

Could be worse, they could trade for Matheson...

Matheson is a rough contract, but he's been playing very well. He's definitely better than Chiarot right now.

Im no insiderr lol.......Just repeating what Friedman is saying. Outside of the actual GM's themselves, he's probably the most likely to know something we don't. So its just guess at this point. Nothing less, nothing more. It could be Tampa bay for all we know.

One thing is for sure, One of these fans bases teams WILL trade for Chiarot. So they can get over the idea of not getting him now.
Its going to happen.
Its 100% certain.
The only thing up in the air is for how much. That's absolutely debatable but one of these fanbases is going to eat a lot of crow when they have him on their roster in March.

I can't wait

Fans don't believe insiders until the trades happen and you see they were right on the money (Value wise). Chiarot would fit right in with FLA (alongside Gudas and Weegar) but would bring another dimension to STL, if traded today he'd be leading the Blues defenders in hits.

Instead of this, why not go and find a team that needs a guy like barrie. Like Seattle, Arizona or any other team struggling to get offence from the blue line or having Powerplay issues. Teams value a T4 RHD OFD that can quarterback a powerplay. Chiarot is brutal, better get a more sound guy defensively and save some cap (i.e getting a guy like soucy)

Yeah, I mean, great to hope to overturn the roster, but it’s not going to be as easy as posting an ACGM IMO. Lotsa of low value, big cap hit players there right now. Not easy to move

I don’t think anyone *hates* the idea of getting Chiarot, they just recognize that moving a 1st for him would be dumb. Now, will someone do it? Time will tell…

Why tf would the Habs want a 50-60 pick and Barrie for someone they are expected to get a 1st plus a prospect for. Chiarots value is closer to Edmonton 2022 1st and Holloway

Worked out well for Tampa... They traded 3 1sts in "dumb" trades and have 2 Cups to show for it.

David Savard was a RD that filled a large void on the right side of the Bolts back end. 2 years of Coleman was nice as well.

Google will allow you to look back at past examples, where it’s extremely easy to see that Big, shutdown RD’s are valued >>> LD’s.

To save you time though, the last expiring LD that was moved for a 1st at the deadline was Yandle in 2015.

we'll see. Chiarot is better than Savard, and its not like Teams cant be desperate for LHD. Your whole argument sounds like analytics, you base your entire argument on what has happened, not what is happening, what is being shared by Friedman, Johnson, +.