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Oil change goalie

Créé par: Sco
Date de création initiale: 4 janv. 2022
Publié: 4 janv. 2022
Équipe: 2021-22 Oilers d'Edmonton
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Swayman, Jeremy
  2. DeBrusk, Jake
  3. Zboril, Jakub
BOS
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse
  2. Bouchard, Evan
  3. Kassian, Zack
2.
EDM
  1. Lyubushkin, Ilya
  2. Kessel, Phil (2 000 000 $ retained)
ARI
  1. Koskinen, Mikko
  2. 2023 2e round pick (EDM)
  3. 2023 4e round pick (EDM)
  4. 2022 1e round pick (EDM)
Rachats de contrats
  • James Neal: 1 916 667 $
  • Andrej Sekera: 1 500 000 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Milan Lucic: 750 000 $ (13%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $80 776 135 $669 339 $265 000 $723 865 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Hyman, Zach
5 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
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McDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $
C
UFA - 5
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Kessel, Phil
4 800 000 $
AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
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DeBrusk, Jake
3 675 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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Draisaitl, Leon
8 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
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Yamamoto, Kailer
1 175 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
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Foegele, Warren
2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
5 125 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 8
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Sceviour, Colton
750 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
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Shore, Devin
850 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 2
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Ryan, Derek
1 250 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
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Perlini, Brendan
750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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McLeod, Ryan
834 167 $
C
RFA - 1
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Turris, Kyle
1 650 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Nurse, Darnell
5 600 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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Barrie, Tyson
4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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Smith, Mike
2 200 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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Keith, Duncan
5 538 462 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 2
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Ceci, Cody
3 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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Swayman, Jeremy
925 000 $
G
RFA - 2
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Zboril, Jakub
725 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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Lyubushkin, Ilya
1 350 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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Koekkoek, Slater
925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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Niemeläinen, Markus
817 500 $
DG
RFA - 1
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Klefbom, Oscar
4 167 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
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Archibald, Josh
1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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Russell, Kris
1 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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Stalock, Alex
785 000 $
G
UFA - 1

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4 janv. à 18 h 0
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Zboril is done for the year with an injury and Boston isn't trade Swayman.
4 janv. à 18 h 1
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Zboril is done for the year with an injury and Boston isn't trade Swayman.


why not? this is very very good return for Boston.

EDM actually losses this deal badly.
4 janv. à 18 h 6
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Not a chance are we trading Bouch and the Bison King.
4 janv. à 18 h 7
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Quoting: MarcBergevin69
why not? this is very very good return for Boston.

EDM actually losses this deal badly.


I was not aware Zboril was done for the year, I think that Swayman could be a stud of a goaltender, thus the large load from Edmonton. I think this is good trade from both sides.
4 janv. à 18 h 9
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What?
4 janv. à 18 h 24
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Quoting: MarcBergevin69
why not? this is very very good return for Boston.

EDM actually losses this deal badly.


Teams don’t usually trade goalies that start their career with a 1.92 GAA and a .930 SV%
4 janv. à 18 h 41
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Teams don’t usually trade goalies that start their career with a 1.92 GAA and a .930 SV%


you're getting a top pairing dman and top 6 winger in return. that's when a trade like that would happen.
4 janv. à 18 h 47
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Quoting: MarcBergevin69
you're getting a top pairing dman and top 6 winger in return. that's when a trade like that would happen.


Top six is full for wingers.
Remind me who the top pair d man is? Surely you aren’t referring to Bouchard.
4 janv. à 18 h 56
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Quoting: MarcBergevin69
why not? this is very very good return for Boston.

EDM actually losses this deal badly.


They traded they're other young goalie Dan Vladar because the decided that Swayman was the future. They're not suddenly going to change course and trade him.
4 janv. à 18 h 57
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I was not aware Zboril was done for the year, I think that Swayman could be a stud of a goaltender, thus the large load from Edmonton. I think this is good trade from both sides.


The bolded is exactly why they aren't trading him
4 janv. à 19 h 11
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
Top six is full for wingers.
Remind me who the top pair d man is? Surely you aren’t referring to Bouchard.


yes, Evan Bouchard, who is currently on pace for 49 points at 22 years old. Probably EDMs best all around d this season. Easily a top paring d in the future.
4 janv. à 19 h 12
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Kinda seems foolish to suggest Edmonton would move JP or Bouch… I seriously think that would cause a legit riot within Edmonton.
4 janv. à 19 h 13
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Quoting: MarcBergevin69
yes, Evan Bouchard, who is currently on pace for 49 points at 22 years old. Probably EDMs best all around d this season. Easily a top paring d in the future.


lol okay. So a guy with 54 career games at an average of 18:31 is a number one now? But you’re not applying the same logic to a young goalie with fantastic numbers. Okay, got it.
4 janv. à 19 h 17
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lol okay. So a guy with 54 career games at an average of 18:31 is a number one now? But you’re not applying the same logic to a young goalie with fantastic numbers. Okay, got it.


Okay maybe this season he's top 3 d. But he will be top pair in 2 years time. His analytics are amazing and he looks like EDMs best d if you watch them.

Goalies are way more inconsistent, hard to tell for sure that swayman is legit. Look at Matt Murray for example, wins two cups at young age then hes on waivers at 26 years old.

For the record, I do think Swayman is a stud but considering you guys have Ullmark locked up and have Rask coming back, picking up Bouchard and Puljarvi would be a no brainer imo.

Having Bouchard and macavoy for the next decade wouldn't hurt.
4 janv. à 19 h 22
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besides the fact the bruins arent moving swayman... zboril is done for the year, and you can keep your zack kassian contract thanks.
4 janv. à 19 h 25
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Okay maybe this season he's top 3 d. But he will be top pair in 2 years time. His analytics are amazing and he looks like EDMs best d if you watch them.

Goalies are way more inconsistent, hard to tell for sure that swayman is legit. Look at Matt Murray for example, wins two cups at young age then hes on waivers at 26 years old.

For the record, I do think Swayman is a stud but considering you guys have Ullmark locked up and have Rask coming back, picking up Bouchard and Puljarvi would be a no brainer imo.

Having Bouchard and macavoy for the next decade wouldn't hurt.


You can’t think of any instances of a young d man looking pretty good early on and not really taking the next step? Bouchard is a nice prospect. I would be a little more gung ho on him if he was a couple years younger with this kind of experience.

If the bruins were hurting for wingers, this might make sense. But it doesn’t. Move ullmark.
4 janv. à 20 h 37
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You can’t think of any instances of a young d man looking pretty good early on and not really taking the next step? Bouchard is a nice prospect. I would be a little more gung ho on him if he was a couple years younger with this kind of experience.

If the bruins were hurting for wingers, this might make sense. But it doesn’t. Move ullmark.



Bouchard was slow played for at least a year. He sat on the NHL Roster the Coach wouldn’t play him because he wanted to play ethan bear. That’s one of the reasons Bear was traded. Bouchard is damn good and he doesn’t even really play on the pp yet which he is elite at.
4 janv. à 20 h 40
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Bouchard was slow played for at least a year. He sat on the NHL Roster the Coach wouldn’t play him because he wanted to play ethan bear. That’s one of the reasons Bear was traded. Bouchard is damn good and he doesn’t even really play on the pp yet which he is elite at.


Elite? He’s elite at that? Then why isn’t he playing PP? Elite PP guys play on the PP because they’re elite on the PP.
4 janv. à 20 h 43
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Elite? He’s elite at that? Then why isn’t he playing PP? Elite PP guys play on the PP because they’re elite on the PP.


They pretty much have Tyson Barrie just to run the PP. Bouchard would get 60-70 points a year if he was on PP. They will sign him to a long term extension before they let him get those kind of totals or they would never afford him.
4 janv. à 20 h 46
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They pretty much have Tyson Barrie just to run the PP. Bouchard would get 60-70 points a year if he was on PP. They will sign him to a long term extension before they let him get those kind of totals or they would never afford him.


You understand how preposterous it is to say taht someone is elite on the PP but can’t get on the PP right? There aren’t many elite players in this league.
4 janv. à 20 h 50
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You understand how preposterous it is to say taht someone is elite on the PP but can’t get on the PP right? There aren’t many elite players in this league.


I know what I said it will be clear in 2 years. The coach does things his own way and doesn’t listen to any conventional wisdom.
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4 janv. à 20 h 52
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I know what I said it will be clear in 2 years. The coach does things his own way and doesn’t listen to any conventional wisdom.


If he was truly elite wouldn’t he and Barrie both play on the PP?
5 janv. à 11 h 12
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If he was truly elite wouldn’t he and Barrie both play on the PP?


Barrie is a powerplay specialist, makes sense they would use him over Bouchard for now.

Like Zmach said once Bouchard is more experienced he will no doubt be running the powerplay with Mcdavid and Drai.

And moving ullmark will probably be a cap dump so good luck with that. Wont be getting a Bouchard / Puljujärvi return for him.
5 janv. à 11 h 13
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If he was truly elite wouldn’t he and Barrie both play on the PP?


They just play the same 5 players for 2 minutes usually.
5 janv. à 11 h 28
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They just play the same 5 players for 2 minutes usually.


Ya but why isn’t a guy that’s elite on the PP one of them?
 
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