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bye prospects win now

Créé par: NoWah49
Date de création initiale: 28 déc. 2021
Publié: 28 déc. 2021
Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton
Explications
Keith retires bc he's bad and none of this is real
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Puljujärvi, Jesse44 500 000 $
Kubalik, Dominik33 000 000 $
Yamamoto, Kailer1900 000 $
McLeod, Ryan1900 000 $
Berglund, Filip1900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Niederreiter, Nino44 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Chychrun, Jakob
ARI
  1. Broberg, Philip
  2. Benson, Tyler [Droits de RFA]
  3. 2022 1e round pick (EDM)
2.
EDM
  1. Kubalik, Dominik [Droits de RFA]
CHI
  1. Kassian, Zack
  2. Lavoie, Raphael
  3. 2023 1e round pick (EDM)
3.
EDM
  1. Driedger, Chris
SEA
  1. Ceci, Cody
4.
EDM
  1. Hronek, Filip
DET
  1. Holloway, Dylan
  2. Barrie, Tyson
  3. 2023 3e round pick (EDM)
Rachats de contrats
  • James Neal: 1 916 667 $
  • Andrej Sekera: 1 500 000 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Milan Lucic: 750 000 $ (13%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2182 500 000 $80 849 333 $896 000 $865 000 $1 650 667 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Hyman, Zach
5 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 6
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McDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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Puljujärvi, Jesse
4 500 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Niederreiter, Nino
4 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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Draisaitl, Leon
8 500 000 $
C, AG
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
Kubalik, Dominik
3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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Foegele, Warren
2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
5 125 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 7
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Yamamoto, Kailer
900 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 2
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Shore, Devin
850 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
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McLeod, Ryan
900 000 $
C
RFA
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Ryan, Derek
1 250 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Nurse, Darnell
9 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 8
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Bouchard, Evan
863 333 $
DD
RFA - 1
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Driedger, Chris
3 500 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de ARI
Chychrun, Jakob
4 600 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de DET
Hronek, Filip
4 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
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Skinner, Stuart
750 000 $
G
RFA - 1
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Koekkoek, Slater
925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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Berglund, Filip
900 000 $
DD
UFA
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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Tullio, Tyler
823 333 $
AD
RFA - 3
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Klefbom, Oscar
4 167 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 1
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Keith, Duncan
5 538 462 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
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Smith, Mike
2 200 000 $
G
UFA - 1

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28 déc. 2021 à 13 h 59
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Hard no to the Detroit trade.
28 déc. 2021 à 14 h 40
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Quoting: Deaner37
Hard no to the Detroit trade.


seems like a really good deal for a 2nd pair dman
28 déc. 2021 à 14 h 52
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Quoting: oilersguy
seems like a really good deal for a 2nd pair dman


Wings have two centers to see if they can be #2 centers, Veldno and. Bergeron, but do not have .any RHD in the system besides Seider, Hronek and Lindstrom ready to play now. And Barrie is not very good and does not match rebuild timeline. Plus Wings have a ton of cap and can possible lure a center like Trochek, Hertl or another player with very good deals and keep Hronek.
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28 déc. 2021 à 15 h 6
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That Ceci trade is a steal for Seattle. Ceci has been solid defensively and very good moving the puck. No to everything except kubalik.
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28 déc. 2021 à 15 h 36
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Quoting: mikearky
Wings have two centers to see if they can be #2 centers, Veldno and. Bergeron, but do not have .any RHD in the system besides Seider, Hronek and Lindstrom ready to play now. And Barrie is not very good and does not match rebuild timeline. Plus Wings have a ton of cap and can possible lure a center like Trochek, Hertl or another player with very good deals and keep Hronek.


I agree but Berggren is a NHL wing, Fabbri makes a better center than Berggren and that didn't work out so well last season. But Detroit doesn't make this trade.
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28 déc. 2021 à 17 h 7
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Quoting: Deaner37
Hard no to the Detroit trade.


Holloway was tracking well ahead of Larkin when he got injured last spring. There's zero chance Holland sends him out (with other assets) for Hronek. This AGM was made by a Pens fan so don't take it too seriously.
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28 déc. 2021 à 17 h 18
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Quoting: TraderJoes
Holloway was tracking well ahead of Larkin when he got injured last spring. There's zero chance Holland sends him out (with other assets) for Hronek. This AGM was made by a Pens fan so don't take it too seriously.

Tracking “well ahead” puts him at 53 pts vs Larkins 47 pts without factoring how Covid impacted some NCAA stats & sample size. I guess you use that phrase loosely.
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28 déc. 2021 à 17 h 25
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Quoting: BStinson
Tracking “well ahead” puts him at 53 pts vs Larkins 47 pts without factoring how Covid impacted some NCAA stats & sample size. I guess you use that phrase loosely.

He got injured in game 19, but still played the final 4 games (zero points). He was actually at 35 points in 19 games, or a 64.5 point pace (for 35 gp). That's nearly 40% better production in draft+1.
28 déc. 2021 à 17 h 42
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Quoting: TraderJoes
He got injured in game 19, but still played the final 4 games (zero points). He was actually at 35 points in 19 games, or a 64.5 point pace (for 35 gp). That's nearly 40% better production in draft+1.

It’s hockey, players play injured all the time same with Larkin in that 14-15 season. That’s really cherry picking now.
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28 déc. 2021 à 18 h 5
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Quoting: oilersguy
seems like a really good deal for a 2nd pair dman


Barrie is only useful offensively and nothing else
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28 déc. 2021 à 18 h 38
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Quoting: IconicHawk
Barrie is only useful offensively and nothing else


48 points in 56 games is not nothing, and Dylan Holloway
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28 déc. 2021 à 18 h 38
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28 déc. 2021 à 18 h 39
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Quoting: oilersguy
48 points in 56 games is not nothing, and Dylan Holloway


Not say he’s nothing offensively but on defence is what I’m talking about
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29 déc. 2021 à 9 h 53
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Quoting: BStinson
It’s hockey, players play injured all the time same with Larkin in that 14-15 season. That’s really cherry picking now.

Not at all. It's an injury that required two surgeries and will keep him out nearly 12 months. It wasn't the usual 'bumps and bruises' that guys play through.
29 déc. 2021 à 10 h 40
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Not at all. It's an injury that required two surgeries and will keep him out nearly 12 months. It wasn't the usual 'bumps and bruises' that guys play through.

If you’re talking about his wrist injury that occurred in the playoffs. This isn’t an instance where it broke and then he played multiple games and then it broke again.
29 déc. 2021 à 10 h 44
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If you’re talking about his wrist injury that occurred in the playoffs. This isn’t an instance where it broke and then he played multiple games and then it broke again.

He was having wrist issues as early as the WJC. It broke in game 19
29 déc. 2021 à 10 h 59
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He was having wrist issues as early as the WJC. It broke in game 19


29th game in the schedule (Pitt) with 2 remaining regular season games. Some reported thumb but it was his scaphoid bone specifically causing the discomfort. Most likely fractured in the 29th game and then subsequent games broken.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/oilers-rookie-notebook-dylan-holloways-wrist-injury-tough-blow/sn-amp/
29 déc. 2021 à 11 h 27
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29th game in the schedule (Pitt) with 2 remaining regular season games. Some reported thumb but it was his scaphoid bone specifically causing the discomfort. Most likely fractured in the 29th game and then subsequent games broken.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/oilers-rookie-notebook-dylan-holloways-wrist-injury-tough-blow/sn-amp/

How many games did Larkin play with broken bones in his draft+1?
29 déc. 2021 à 12 h 48
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How many games did Larkin play with broken bones in his draft+1?

He was banged up towards the beginning of the season but nothing broken. He had time off for WJC and a great tournament which is why he was ~2 PPG post WJC and was vital to that teams success. Not exactly sure I’m following your point here anymore.
29 déc. 2021 à 15 h 52
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He was banged up towards the beginning of the season but nothing broken. He had time off for WJC and a great tournament which is why he was ~2 PPG post WJC and was vital to that teams success. Not exactly sure I’m following your point here anymore.


My point is Holloway is an elite prospect and this trade is a slam-dunk for Detroit. No chance Holland entertains this idea.
29 déc. 2021 à 16 h 22
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My point is Holloway is an elite prospect and this trade is a slam-dunk for Detroit. No chance Holland entertains this idea.


When did I say he wasn’t a good prospect? I said you used the phrase “well ahead” extremely loose. You then proceeded to avoid all my rebuttals and cherry pick stats which were incorrect to try and prove your point. The only thing of interest for Detroit is Holloway as Barrie doesn’t fit our rebuild so team needs need to be accounted for both sides. Further, Hronek is an established top 4 RHD that’s still young enough to develop so not exactly looking to move him.
29 déc. 2021 à 16 h 44
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Only way Holloway gets moved for hronek is if Detroit eats 50% or gives up a first with him
 
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