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Ken Holland Appreciation Post

Créé par: EccE
Équipe: 2021-22 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 28 déc. 2021
Publié: 28 déc. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
This is basically the trade. To summarize, Ken Holland, who badly needs a star goalie, decided to not get one and instead acquire a third round pick to move down in the draft. Bill Guerin got the steal of the draft at the 20th pick. Now Wallstedt is dominating in the WJC and in the upper-tier of SHL-goalies. He just turned 19. My guess is that a couple years from now Holland makes a stupid overpay-move for a medium goalie and comments on how hard tendys are to find. Everyone applauds and surely nobody gets angry.

Thank you, Holland!
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MIN
  1. Bourgault, Xavier [Liste de réserve]
  2. Münzenberger, Luca [Liste de réserve]
Détails additionnels:
Edmonton moved down two spots for a 3rd round pick.
EDM
  1. Wallstedt, Jesper [Liste de réserve]
Détails additionnels:
Minnesota moved up to grab Wallstedt.
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28 déc. 2021 à 4 h 22
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28 déc. 2021 à 6 h 16
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I think Ducks fans appreciate Ken Holland for taking Philip Broberg one spot before the Ducks took Trevor Zegras
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28 déc. 2021 à 8 h 46
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Going into the draft it was Cossa or nothing. Edmonton has Skinner. He will be their goalie for a long time. A goalie doesn’t help you win in the NHL for 4 years they need help before that and they will sign a veteran goalie on a long term contract before wallstedt is ready leaving no place for him. There were rumours that wallstedt had attitude issues they certainly don’t need that. Luca munzenberger looks like he could be a good second pairing D man one day.
28 déc. 2021 à 8 h 52
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Quoting: majormoose007
I think Ducks fans appreciate Ken Holland for taking Philip Broberg one spot before the Ducks took Trevor Zegras


Yes I’m also quite sure the islanders say thanks for the Mathew barzal pick to Chia.
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28 déc. 2021 à 11 h 12
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Going into the draft it was Cossa or nothing. Edmonton has Skinner. He will be their goalie for a long time. A goalie doesn’t help you win in the NHL for 4 years they need help before that and they will sign a veteran goalie on a long term contract before wallstedt is ready leaving no place for him. There were rumours that wallstedt had attitude issues they certainly don’t need that. Luca munzenberger looks like he could be a good second pairing D man one day.


There's a lot of unpacking to be done here... First of all, Wallstedt has no attitude issues - no credible source has ever reported that. Munzenberger is a decent prospect that really hasn't impressed apart from his game against Finland. He is your average 2nd / above average 3rd pair D. Wallstedt is miles ahead of him and Bourghault.

Also, if Stuart Skinner is your long-term answer in goal, you can forget all dreams of contending. The guy has 11 games of experience and a ceiling not much higher than Kaapo Kähkönen. Wallstedt has been said to be able to become the next Lundqvist (obviously because of the Swedish connection, but you get the point). If the plan was originally Cossa or nothing, the planmaster doesn't know how to do their job since there is no consensus Cossa is better - I'd actually argue that Yzerman made a mistake taking him over Wallstedt.

Point being, Holland made a terrible decision to pass up on Wallstedt and if you disagree, Wallstedt will prove you wrong very soon.
28 déc. 2021 à 14 h 33
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There's a lot of unpacking to be done here... First of all, Wallstedt has no attitude issues - no credible source has ever reported that. Munzenberger is a decent prospect that really hasn't impressed apart from his game against Finland. He is your average 2nd / above average 3rd pair D. Wallstedt is miles ahead of him and Bourghault.

Also, if Stuart Skinner is your long-term answer in goal, you can forget all dreams of contending. The guy has 11 games of experience and a ceiling not much higher than Kaapo Kähkönen. Wallstedt has been said to be able to become the next Lundqvist (obviously because of the Swedish connection, but you get the point). If the plan was originally Cossa or nothing, the planmaster doesn't know how to do their job since there is no consensus Cossa is better - I'd actually argue that Yzerman made a mistake taking him over Wallstedt.

Point being, Holland made a terrible decision to pass up on Wallstedt and if you disagree, Wallstedt will prove you wrong very soon.


Skinner is a superior goalie to wallstedt at this time. When wallstedt has a .916 SV% in the NHL like skinner then you can make claims like that. You can’t base one game against Slovakia in world juniors as him being the next lundquist. Everybody said Askarov was the best goalie to be drafted since Carey price, now where did he go? There is a goalie every year that is touted as the best just for the novelty.
28 déc. 2021 à 14 h 38
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Skinner is a superior goalie to wallstedt at this time. When wallstedt has a .916 SV% in the NHL like skinner then you can make claims like that. You can’t base one game against Slovakia in world juniors as him being the next lundquist. Everybody said Askarov was the best goalie to be drafted since Carey price, now where did he go? There is a goalie every year that is touted as the best just for the novelty.


When did I say Wallstedt is better than Skinner, as of now? All I was talking about is THE FUTURE. Skinner is not a goalie capable of carrying a team deep into the playoffs. Wallstedt might become one a few years down the road. I think you missed my point. Holland made a major mistake not drafting Wallstedt, it has nothing to do with this Skinner kid.
28 déc. 2021 à 14 h 58
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When did I say Wallstedt is better than Skinner, as of now? All I was talking about is THE FUTURE. Skinner is not a goalie capable of carrying a team deep into the playoffs. Wallstedt might become one a few years down the road. I think you missed my point. Holland made a major mistake not drafting Wallstedt, it has nothing to do with this Skinner kid.


That remains to be seen on skinner and same with wallstedt. My point is that if edmonton waits till wallstedt is ready to get a good goalie they are already sunk because in 3 more years Draisaitl is a UFA and in 4 years Mcdavid is a UFA neither will stick around if there is no success and management hasn’t gone all in to get a goalie capable of helping now.
 
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