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Créé par: DirtyDangle
Équipe: 2022-23 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 23 déc. 2021
Publié: 24 déc. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
avs bet petry can find his game again playing a more appropriate role.

avs have $7m to figure out a starting goalie.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
11 150 000 $
1875 000 $
1875 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
54 500 000 $
1875 000 $
12 000 000 $
15 000 000 $
1850 000 $
Transactions
COL
  1. Petry, Jeff (3 125 000 $ retained)
MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (COL)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $71 234 583 $25 000 $3 775 000 $11 265 417 $
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
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6 300 000 $6 300 000 $
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9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
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UFA - 8
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908 333 $908 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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UFA - 1
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1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
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UFA - 3
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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UFA - 1
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
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UFA - 1
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875 000 $875 000 $
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UFA - 1
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875 000 $875 000 $
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RFA - 1
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1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
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UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
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UFA - 5
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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UFA - 5
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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24 déc. 2021 à 7 h 26
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Can't see the Habs retaining almost $10,000,000 on Petry for a 2nd late 2nd at that.
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24 déc. 2021 à 7 h 44
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Petry will find is game the day Dom Ducharme will be fire, which means next year
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24 déc. 2021 à 8 h 18
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Good R.D are hard to come by. you don't get him for nothing.
24 déc. 2021 à 8 h 30
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I can't see Colorado committing dollars to another defenseman with term. There are too many other balls in the air with both the entire second line and goalie tandem being ufas. If they do add a veteran instead of going with Barron, I think it would have to be a guy like Giordano on a one year deal or a pending ufa at the tdl.

I like the Pavelski signing. I think it's a long shot but like the fit.
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24 déc. 2021 à 9 h 14
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If theres one constant on this site its DirtyDangle posting habs trades where he is wildly out of touch with player values.
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24 déc. 2021 à 9 h 36
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If theres one constant on this site its DirtyDangle posting habs trades where he is wildly out of touch with player values.


I guess it's in the eye of the beholder, because the constant for me is Habs fans sending bad contracts and/or mediocre players to Colorado in exchange for premium assets. Lol.
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24 déc. 2021 à 10 h 21
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Petry will find is game the day Dom Ducharme will be fire, which means next year


he'll still 2 years left on his contract next year.
24 déc. 2021 à 10 h 28
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If theres one constant on this site its DirtyDangle posting habs trades where he is wildly out of touch with player values.


i think a 2nd for what he brings this season is more than fair. there isn't another player in the league who's play fell this far this season. even with the retention if his play doesn't improve the avs have an overpaid 3rd pair defenseman and gave up a 2nd. the price is fair considering the risk.

habs fans are just stuck in fantasy land when it comes to trade values
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24 déc. 2021 à 10 h 59
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he'll still 2 years left on his contract next year.


Ducharme is getting fired at the end of the season
24 déc. 2021 à 11 h 0
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Ducharme is getting fired at the end of the season


imo, if the habs opt for a rebuild i think they'll keep him in place. if they go for a retool they'll bite the bullet and fire him.
24 déc. 2021 à 11 h 13
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i think a 2nd for what he brings this season is more than fair. there isn't another player in the league who's play fell this far this season. even with the retention if his play doesn't improve the avs have an overpaid 3rd pair defenseman and gave up a 2nd. the price is fair considering the risk.

habs fans are just stuck in fantasy land when it comes to trade values


All of his analytics numbers are still excellent a quarter season of bad puck luck doesnt erase a career of excellent production. He is still in the top 30 among dmen in points since the start of last year.

At that retention he is making low end #4-high #5 money he is still significantly better than that.
24 déc. 2021 à 11 h 20
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All of his analytics numbers are still excellent a quarter season of bad puck luck doesnt erase a career of excellent production. He is still in the top 30 among dmen in points since the start of last year.

At that retention he is making low end #4-high #5 money he is still significantly better than that.


it's not bad puck luck, his advanced stats aren't great this season. he's playing terrible. maybe it is just a bad start but when your 35+ with a big contract you don't get a free pass. your paying for performance not potential. he's not top 30 in d scoring this season, he's 211th.. i don't want to hear anything about how is numbers are down becuase it's the habs either when he's playing 24 minutes a game while kulak, savard, and wideman are still finding ways to produce offensively.
24 déc. 2021 à 11 h 35
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it's not bad puck luck, his advanced stats aren't great this season. he's playing terrible. maybe it is just a bad start but when your 35+ with a big contract you don't get a free pass. your paying for performance not potential. he's not top 30 in d scoring this season, he's 211th.. i don't want to hear anything about how is numbers are down becuase it's the habs either when he's playing 24 minutes a game while kulak, savard, and wideman are still finding ways to produce offensively.


Ya because teams are goibg to assume that a guy who has more points than Karlsson hamilton jones etc the previously 4 seasons magically forget everything overnight.

At less than 3.25 million team will lineup to take that gamble and pay much more. 3 million for a RD on the ufa market doesnt get you a top 4 dman
24 déc. 2021 à 11 h 40
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Ya because teams are goibg to assume that a guy who has more points than Karlsson hamilton jones etc the previously 4 seasons magically forget everything overnight.

At less than 3.25 million team will lineup to take that gamble and pay much more. 3 million for a RD on the ufa market doesnt get you a top 4 dman


that's how aging works. the decline is usually fast.

petry isn't playing at a top 4 level right now. in free agency $3.25m over 3 years for a 35+ player gets you a good player. that's almost what suter signed for and suter is way better than petry.
24 déc. 2021 à 11 h 48
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no Justin Barron?
24 déc. 2021 à 11 h 50
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that's how aging works. the decline is usually fast.

petry isn't playing at a top 4 level right now. in free agency $3.25m over 3 years for a 35+ player gets you a good player. that's almost what suter signed for and suter is way better than petry.


You cant say "thats how aging works" then throw out a example who is just starting a deal at the same age as when petrys ends.

Suter is also a left shot and its the height of ignorance to assume LD and RD have similar values. He is also the perfect example of bounceback as he wasnt good last year but at 37 bounced back to his younger self.
24 déc. 2021 à 11 h 54
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no Justin Barron?


if he makes the team sure. he looked like he could use a bit more seasoning. i'd rather let him over develop than rush him.
24 déc. 2021 à 12 h 1
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You cant say "thats how aging works" then throw out a example who is just starting a deal at the same age as when petrys ends.

Suter is also a left shot and its the height of ignorance to assume LD and RD have similar values. He is also the perfect example of bounceback as he wasnt good last year but at 37 bounced back to his younger self.


suter is a freak of nature an exception to the rule. petry is not. simple as that.

suter had an off year and was bought out. if thats the way the habs want to go so be it. saves the avs a 2nd rounder.
24 déc. 2021 à 12 h 57
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If theres one constant on this site its DirtyDangle posting habs trades where he is wildly out of touch with player values.

If there is one constant on this site is the insane overvaluing of MTL players by MTL fans. Like literally have seen multiple threads with crap like Newhook and Byram and Kuemper for Price and parts. The number of times Bad Girard trades are posted are only surpassed by bad over pays for Drouin. There are some good MTL fans here but there are some freaking loons, that if the players were as good as their traded value MTL would be like the 3 time defending cup champion.
24 déc. 2021 à 13 h 18
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it's not bad puck luck, his advanced stats aren't great this season. he's playing terrible. maybe it is just a bad start but when your 35+ with a big contract you don't get a free pass. your paying for performance not potential. he's not top 30 in d scoring this season, he's 211th.. i don't want to hear anything about how is numbers are down becuase it's the habs either when he's playing 24 minutes a game while kulak, savard, and wideman are still finding ways to produce offensively.


Look at Petry numbers last year … he didn’t scored a SINGLE goal when Ducharme replaced C. Julien. Is season went downhill from there. Ducharme is THE problem
24 déc. 2021 à 14 h 25
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Look at Petry numbers last year … he didn’t scored a SINGLE goal when Ducharme replaced C. Julien. Is season went downhill from there. Ducharme is THE problem


he's also older now and doesn't have weber to play the tough minutes. it could be ducharme but it could also be age related decline. it's impossible to say one way or the other. given the habs other defensemen are finding ways to contribute offensively im leaning towards it's just a decline for petry.
24 déc. 2021 à 16 h 15
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he's also older now and doesn't have weber to play the tough minutes. it could be ducharme but it could also be age related decline. it's impossible to say one way or the other. given the habs other defensemen are finding ways to contribute offensively im leaning towards it's just a decline for petry.


What about Petry saying publicly Ducharme system has no structure lol but yeah could be one or the other. But look where the Habs are right now with Allen playing God like. Ducharme is the worse coach in NHL history & we are saying this since last year even if we made it too the SCF. Imagine never using Caufield in the Ovechkin spot. Like wtf use him for is one timer but no, Burrows & Ducharme are ****.
24 déc. 2021 à 17 h 28
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What about Petry saying publicly Ducharme system has no structure lol but yeah could be one or the other. But look where the Habs are right now with Allen playing God like. Ducharme is the worse coach in NHL history & we are saying this since last year even if we made it too the SCF. Imagine never using Caufield in the Ovechkin spot. Like wtf use him for is one timer but no, Burrows & Ducharme are ****.


like i said the other habs defesemen are performing. it's just petry. and caufield doesn't have the strength to one time like ovi. he should be down in the ahl.
24 déc. 2021 à 17 h 35
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like i said the other habs defesemen are performing. it's just petry. and caufield doesn't have the strength to one time like ovi. he should be down in the ahl.


Doesn’t have the strength ? Is shot is Elite and you don’t need to be strong on the PP you are not getting hit. Coaching staff are dumb that’s it.
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Doesn’t have the strength ? Is shot is Elite and you don’t need to be strong on the PP you are not getting hit. Coaching staff are dumb that’s it.


from 20 ft out is shot is elite.
 
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