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TDLs Part 12

Créé par: nintendofan721
Équipe: 2021-22 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 20 déc. 2021
Publié: 21 déc. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
This is a challenging team to work with. They have the two best players in the league, who don’t have much of a team built around them. They’ll likely be in the playoffs, but as we saw last year they stink come that time. If they want to have any chance at making it past the first round, they’ll have to make some trades. They’ll have to tweak their defense and pick up a goaltender, and they especially need to change up their bottom six, who are the ones giving up all the goals. If Ken Holland makes these moves, they might have a bit of a run, but by next year they’ll have very little cap space to work with which will make it hard for the Oilers’ future. I hope for McDavid and Draisaitl that their team can have some success later on outside of the regular season.
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Fleury, Marc-André (3 500 000 $ retained)
CHI
  1. Koskinen, Mikko
  2. Turris, Kyle
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
Made this trade for my Chicago TDL. If Edmonton even wants to be close to making it past the first round they’ll need a goalie with playoff experience, and MAF has that. The cap dumps in return will cost the Oilers a high pick.
2.
EDM
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
BOS
  1. Barrie, Tyson
Détails additionnels:
I’ve seen rumours that Boston wants a right offensive defenseman, and Barrie may be a good fit for them. DeBrusk can be given in return since he’s on the outs from Boston and Oilers need a better bottom six. It’ll be a return home for him too!
3.
EDM
  1. Leddy, Nick (2 750 000 $ retained)
DET
  1. Ryan, Derek
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
Oilers are looking for a left defenseman, and Leddy may be a solid option. It’ll be for a similar return to what the Isles got for him.
4.
EDM
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus (2 700 000 $ retained)
PHI
  1. Koekkoek, Slater
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
A RHD to replace Barrie for this year. He’ll be worth a bit less than what the Sabres got for him though since he’s a pending UFA.
5.
ARI
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
An extra bottom six forward.
6.
SEA
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
Another bottom six forward.
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2024
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2281 500 000 $74 537 801 $669 339 $850 000 $6 962 199 $
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 7
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12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
UFA - 5
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1 175 000 $1 175 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 8
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
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1 175 000 $1 175 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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3 675 000 $3 675 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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850 000 $850 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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750 000 $750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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5 600 000 $5 600 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 2
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0 $0 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
0 $0 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
2 700 000 $2 700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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5 538 462 $5 538 462 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 2
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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850 000 $850 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 2
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2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
750 000 $750 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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785 000 $785 000 $
G
UFA - 1

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21 déc. 2021 à 14 h 46
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bruins dont need barrie.
21 déc. 2021 à 14 h 55
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If the Wings are selling off Leddy half-retained, the return would have to be better than a 3rd and a cap dump. Otherwise, they might as well keep him.
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21 déc. 2021 à 15 h 14
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I'm not convinced any of these guys make the Oilers better.

More likely this group is worse than what they've got now.
21 déc. 2021 à 16 h 2
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Quoting: TraderJoes
I'm not convinced any of these guys make the Oilers better.

More likely this group is worse than what they've got now.


Other than the Goaltending deal, I 100% agree, Fleury is significantly better than either Koskinen or Smith so this would be legit, however, I am not sold he'd be willing to waive his NMC AND don't see Edmonton giving up a 1st for him, unless they filled needs elsewhere with prospects or future draft picks and this was the remaining piece...
Also, don't get why people are quick to oust Barrie, yes Bouchard is pretty much ready to takeover his spot, but, people severely devalue a great room guy can do for the team.. Usually they are referred to as "Glue Guys" and are role players in the bottom pairing D or bottom 6 forwards, but Barrie can bring sooo much more, and he's on a discounted deal.. Guarantee had he gone to market rather than stay in Edmonton he would've got more term and likely more $$$(case and point Derek Forbort got 3x$3m and he's nowhere near the player, or importance to the teams he's ever played on that Barrie has..)..
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21 déc. 2021 à 16 h 12
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Absolute minimum Leddy 50% will cost a 2nd, Wings will obviously try to get more than that but if they can't even get a 2nd they'll just try to resign him
21 déc. 2021 à 16 h 25
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Other than the Goaltending deal, I 100% agree, Fleury is significantly better than either Koskinen or Smith so this would be legit, however, I am not sold he'd be willing to waive his NMC AND don't see Edmonton giving up a 1st for him, unless they filled needs elsewhere with prospects or future draft picks and this was the remaining piece...
Also, don't get why people are quick to oust Barrie, yes Bouchard is pretty much ready to takeover his spot, but, people severely devalue a great room guy can do for the team.. Usually they are referred to as "Glue Guys" and are role players in the bottom pairing D or bottom 6 forwards, but Barrie can bring sooo much more, and he's on a discounted deal.. Guarantee had he gone to market rather than stay in Edmonton he would've got more term and likely more $$$(case and point Derek Forbort got 3x$3m and he's nowhere near the player, or importance to the teams he's ever played on that Barrie has..)..

I agree with most of this, but why do you think MAF is a "significant upgrade" over Smith? Combining last year and this, Smith has posted a better save percentage (.923 vs .922) while mostly playing in a MUCH tougher division. You'll recall last year that Vegas played in a division with only 1 other good offensive team (Colorado) while Smith faced good offensive players basically every night.

Also, Fleury's performance this year has been, shall we say, uneven. I'm not seeing a "significant upgrade".
21 déc. 2021 à 17 h 31
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Red Wings decline. Yzerman can do much better than that for Leddy.
21 déc. 2021 à 17 h 50
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i seriously doubt they trade for Sheahan.
21 déc. 2021 à 18 h 43
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Bruins. Will. Never. Take. Barrie.
22 déc. 2021 à 9 h 56
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Where did u hear this rumor? Especially don't want barrie.
22 déc. 2021 à 13 h 19
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Quoting: TraderJoes
I agree with most of this, but why do you think MAF is a "significant upgrade" over Smith? Combining last year and this, Smith has posted a better save percentage (.923 vs .922) while mostly playing in a MUCH tougher division. You'll recall last year that Vegas played in a division with only 1 other good offensive team (Colorado) while Smith faced good offensive players basically every night.

Also, Fleury's performance this year has been, shall we say, uneven. I'm not seeing a "significant upgrade".


I base it off their career totals, along with durability... Yes, Smith had a good season last year, and Fleury STARTED off blah this year, but overall, I have faith and trust the 37 year old 3x Stanley Cup champion, who has 500 career regular season wins, over the oft injured Mike Smith... The winning pedigree and durability in net would help answer a few question marks...
22 déc. 2021 à 13 h 21
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Quoting: KDow88
I base it off their career totals, along with durability... Yes, Smith had a good season last year, and Fleury STARTED off blah this year, but overall, I have faith and trust the 37 year old 3x Stanley Cup champion, who has 500 career regular season wins, over the oft injured Mike Smith... The winning pedigree and durability in net would help answer a few question marks...


I'm still not seeing a "significant upgrade". When both guys are healthy, they produce similar results... the fact that Fleury spent most of his career on a fantastic team shouldn't alter his value today.
22 déc. 2021 à 13 h 44
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I'm still not seeing a "significant upgrade". When both guys are healthy, they produce similar results... the fact that Fleury spent most of his career on a fantastic team shouldn't alter his value today.


The significant upgrade would come in the durability portion, I'd much rather the guy who plays 55 games with the .920 save% over the guy who plays 35 games with a .923 save percentage. Smith is sooo injury prone, that it doesn't help his cause that you basically hold your breathe anytime he stretches out too far to make save, whereas Fleury has been doing that his entire career(I seriously hope I don't jinx him-knock on wood) and it's business as usual. Ultimately, I as an Oiler fan would love to see Fleury come in with Smith as a backup 1B option to help get the team over the hump, but that's just a pipe dream, and we are holding out hope that Skinner plays well enough to be a Binnington 2.0 with Smith leading the way and getting rid of Koskinen's deal in any capacity to help bring in a top 6 winger and/or 3rd pairing d man...
22 déc. 2021 à 13 h 54
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The significant upgrade would come in the durability portion, I'd much rather the guy who plays 55 games with the .920 save% over the guy who plays 35 games with a .923 save percentage. Smith is sooo injury prone, that it doesn't help his cause that you basically hold your breathe anytime he stretches out too far to make save, whereas Fleury has been doing that his entire career(I seriously hope I don't jinx him-knock on wood) and it's business as usual. Ultimately, I as an Oiler fan would love to see Fleury come in with Smith as a backup 1B option to help get the team over the hump, but that's just a pipe dream, and we are holding out hope that Skinner plays well enough to be a Binnington 2.0 with Smith leading the way and getting rid of Koskinen's deal in any capacity to help bring in a top 6 winger and/or 3rd pairing d man...


You said Fleury was "significantly better than... Smith". Durability isn't going to cover that statement.
22 déc. 2021 à 14 h 7
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You said Fleury was "significantly better than... Smith". Durability isn't going to cover that statement.


The 37 year old who has played 259 more games than the 40 year old, with a slightly higher save % for his career, and better gaa, is reason enough alone to say he is significantly better... The fact the dude has played wayyyyy more games and still has better career numbers should be plenty of reason....
22 déc. 2021 à 14 h 32
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The 37 year old who has played 259 more games than the 40 year old, with a slightly higher save % for his career, and better gaa, is reason enough alone to say he is significantly better... The fact the dude has played wayyyyy more games and still has better career numbers should be plenty of reason....

I can't believe that you'd look at career numbers to determine the current value of two guys who have been in the league for 2 decades. That's incredible.
22 déc. 2021 à 15 h 4
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I can't believe that you'd look at career numbers to determine the current value of two guys who have been in the league for 2 decades. That's incredible.


Ok, let's take the average of the last 5 seasons then... MAF 917 Save% and averages 42.4 games played over the last 5 years, Smith .912 save% and 34.2 gps, wouldn't worry about GAA as I feel that can be more of a team stat than anything... If you want to break it down to the last 3 year as well it still doesn't work in Smith's favor, you're grasping at straws thinking that the .923 save% from last year with 32 gp for Smith wasn't the anomaly compared to the consistency Fleury has had his entire career..... I'm not saying Smith is a bad goalie, but in comparison to somebody like Marc Andre, ones a Hall of Famer, and has proven to be a bonafide number 1, and the other has been somewhat of a career journeyman who has been/is often injured...
22 déc. 2021 à 15 h 12
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Where did u hear this rumor? Especially don't want barrie.


I saw a bunch of people on this website saying that was a rumor, but maybe they weren’t looking at a reliable source. Sounds like a lot of bruins fans on this post are saying they don’t want him
22 déc. 2021 à 15 h 37
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Ok, let's take the average of the last 5 seasons then... MAF 917 Save% and averages 42.4 games played over the last 5 years, Smith .912 save% and 34.2 gps, wouldn't worry about GAA as I feel that can be more of a team stat than anything... If you want to break it down to the last 3 year as well it still doesn't work in Smith's favor, you're grasping at straws thinking that the .923 save% from last year with 32 gp for Smith wasn't the anomaly compared to the consistency Fleury has had his entire career..... I'm not saying Smith is a bad goalie, but in comparison to somebody like Marc Andre, ones a Hall of Famer, and has proven to be a bonafide number 1, and the other has been somewhat of a career journeyman who has been/is often injured...


I noticed that you didn't post the last 3 years stats so I went and looked them up:

Fleury: .914
Smith: .912

Still not seeing "significantly better".
22 déc. 2021 à 16 h 37
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I noticed that you didn't post the last 3 years stats so I went and looked them up:

Fleury: .914
Smith: .912

Still not seeing "significantly better".


Ok, and games played average???? Cause it's easy to inflate Smith's stats when he's playing half the games.. How you're not understanding that a durable, proven winner, with better stats and far better track record is significantly better is baffling to me. It's like you're offended that Mike Smith is untrustworthy, unless you are Mike Smith, to which dude, don't trust you cause of how injury prone you are, not saying you're a bad goalie, or anything to that nature, cause when you are healthy you're solid, but you don't stay healthy, ergo Marc Andre Fleury is a significant upgrade...
22 déc. 2021 à 17 h 3
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I saw a bunch of people on this website saying that was a rumor, but maybe they weren’t looking at a reliable source. Sounds like a lot of bruins fans on this post are saying they don’t want him


Bruins are pretty good on the right side. They need LHD, which isn't even their biggest need. We need help at forward more.
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