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Where Chychrun fits best in my opinion

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21 déc. 2021 à 0 h 36
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That’s not going to do it my friend. I think the min start is a 1st, 2nd, top F prospect (Veleno or Berg), and a top D prospect (wallander or Albert). That’s prob still not enough
So, basically swap out Leddy with a 1st and add another sweetener... I’m sure AZ fans will still ask for more
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21 déc. 2021 à 0 h 43
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Back to back trades for Chycrun from different teams that are nowhere close to his value. Either you are trolling or ignorant.
21 déc. 2021 à 0 h 44
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Quoting: Stevierebz
That’s not going to do it my friend. I think the min start is a 1st, 2nd, top F prospect (Veleno or Berg), and a top D prospect (wallander or Albert). That’s prob still not enough
So, basically swap out Leddy with a 1st and add another sweetener... I’m sure AZ fans will still ask for more


Agree with you completely. The two prospects are nice, but the team getting Chychrun will have to give a better roster player than Leddy and a 2022 first instead of a second. Leddy is a rental, for goodness' sake!!
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21 déc. 2021 à 0 h 46
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Quoting: Stevierebz
That’s not going to do it my friend. I think the min start is a 1st, 2nd, top F prospect (Veleno or Berg), and a top D prospect (wallander or Albert). That’s prob still not enough
So, basically swap out Leddy with a 1st and add another sweetener... I’m sure AZ fans will still ask for more


Not a Detroit fan so im not sure who the top guys are in terms of prospects or what may complete the trade. I figured someone like you would clarify that better than what I did here, which makes more sense
21 déc. 2021 à 0 h 54
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Back to back trades for Chycrun from different teams that are nowhere close to his value. Either you are trolling or ignorant.


Well by the sounds of it, you must be an expert around here. Please tell me your take on a Chychrun trade, id love to here it
21 déc. 2021 à 1 h 9
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Leddy has novalue to Arizona but if you get a 1st you can flip it for him. So 1st, Berggren, and johansson or wallinder I thibk is about the max they could go. They can't move Edvinsson or Cossa.
21 déc. 2021 à 1 h 27
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I think Zadina would have to be the big piece in that deal
21 déc. 2021 à 1 h 28
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Quoting: majormoose007
I think Zadina would have to be the big piece in that deal


imo the conversation starts with edvinsson, i don’t think zadina is that highly regarded rn that he could be the centerpiece of this deal.
21 déc. 2021 à 1 h 29
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Quoting: Jfstompers
Leddy has novalue to Arizona but if you get a 1st you can flip it for him. So 1st, Berggren, and johansson or wallinder I thibk is about the max they could go. They can't move Edvinsson or Cossa.


Yeah, wasnt sure about Leddy’s value which is why hes in the package, but the 1st does make more sense. Not a chance Edvinsson gets moved. I got the idea from an article i read today on how Detroit should go for Chychrun, as it would solidify their top 4. Like imagine a top 4 group of:

Chychrun - Seider
Edvinsson - Hronek

Thats a great top 4 in my eyes
21 déc. 2021 à 1 h 30
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Quoting: bagelbob
imo the conversation starts with edvinsson, i don’t think zadina is that highly regarded rn that he could be the centerpiece of this deal.


I think Zadina, Berggren and McIsaac could do it. Maybe throw in a conditional 1st or a 2nd
21 déc. 2021 à 1 h 35
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Quoting: majormoose007
I think Zadina, Berggren and McIsaac could do it. Maybe throw in a conditional 1st or a 2nd


i feel like az could get a much better offer elsewhere. mcisaac’s always injured and zadina hasn’t been able to break through. berggren’s been good but not amazing in the ahl. none of those pieces would be super exciting to me as a potential return. obviously raymond and seider are out so the convo starts with edvinsson imo.
21 déc. 2021 à 1 h 41
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Quoting: bagelbob
i feel like az could get a much better offer elsewhere. mcisaac’s always injured and zadina hasn’t been able to break through. berggren’s been good but not amazing in the ahl. none of those pieces would be super exciting to me as a potential return. obviously raymond and seider are out so the convo starts with edvinsson imo.


Arizona doesn't really have a deep prospect pool so I think they'd want a quantity of prospects and Detroit has that. Also throw in any Red Wings LD prospect McIsaac was the first one to come to mind
21 déc. 2021 à 1 h 43
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Quoting: majormoose007
Arizona doesn't really have a deep prospect pool so I think they'd want a quantity of prospects and Detroit has that. Also throw in any Red Wings LD prospect McIsaac was the first one to come to mind


if i were them, especially in a rebuild and without a deep prospect pool, quality >>>> quantity. one top guy is better than three guys who project as bottom sixers or bottom pair guys. you can find those anywhere.
21 déc. 2021 à 1 h 54
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if i were them, especially in a rebuild and without a deep prospect pool, quality >>>> quantity. one top guy is better than three guys who project as bottom sixers or bottom pair guys. you can find those anywhere.


they're probably going to get 1 or 2 quality guys in this draft
21 déc. 2021 à 1 h 55
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This is tempting from a Red Wings perspective. I really like Berggren and Johansson. We need LD but Edvinsson is on the way. He looks like a sure fire stud. Johansson can really skate. Berggren has alot of upside too. Chychrun is right in his prime. I'm still pissed Holland swapped picks and drafted Cholowski so Chayka would eat the Datsyuk zombie contract. I'm on the fence and can't decide. Good trade proposal. I'd regret seeing Berggren turn into a star in Arizona. Coyotes would likely say no and I'm fine with that because as a Red Wings fan I won't offer more.
21 déc. 2021 à 1 h 57
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Well by the sounds of it, you must be an expert around here. Please tell me your take on a Chychrun trade, id love to here it


Multiple insiders have reported the asking price is enormous with one even saying a return would have to be of similar value to what Eichel got.
21 déc. 2021 à 1 h 58
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Quoting: bagelbob
i feel like az could get a much better offer elsewhere. mcisaac’s always injured and zadina hasn’t been able to break through. berggren’s been good but not amazing in the ahl. none of those pieces would be super exciting to me as a potential return. obviously raymond and seider are out so the convo starts with edvinsson imo.


Edvinsson is a non starter. He's not going anywhere.
21 déc. 2021 à 2 h 1
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Quoting: Letter_Kenny
Edvinsson is a non starter. He's not going anywhere.


i’m just saying i think that’s who the yotes would ask for and that’s the piece that would set detroit’s package apart from what other teams could offer. they want an enormous return for chychrun, eichel level.
21 déc. 2021 à 2 h 3
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Quoting: majormoose007
they're probably going to get 1 or 2 quality guys in this draft

i think that’s even more of a reason to just try to pick up the best prospect you can get in this trade. the yotes don’t have to worry so much about quantity when they have so many picks in the top two rounds this year, they’ll have a lot of depth in the system naturally.
21 déc. 2021 à 2 h 9
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Quoting: bagelbob
i’m just saying i think that’s who the yotes would ask for and that’s the piece that would set detroit’s package apart from what other teams could offer. they want an enormous return for chychrun, eichel level.


I can understand that. If I'm Arizona I'm swinging for the fences in any Chychrun trade. I really don't think he'll be traded but he's flavour of the month right now.
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21 déc. 2021 à 8 h 31
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Detroit is in no position to make big name trades, period. Stay the course of drafting and developing, that's the path to success
 
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