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Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 20 déc. 2021
Publié: 20 déc. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1750 000 $
31 750 000 $
3950 000 $
2830 000 $
1800 000 $
1800 000 $
1800 000 $
3800 000 $
1750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
2850 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
WRIGHT, SHANE
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
ARI
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
Détails additionnels:
Habs draft Shane Wright
2.
CGY
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Harris, Jordan [Liste de réserve]
  3. Norlinder, Mattias
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
3.
MTL
  1. Kukkonen, Kyle [Liste de réserve]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (ANA)
ANA
  1. Lehkonen, Artturi [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
TDL 2021
Chiarot at 50%
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $74 678 749 $1 132 500 $1 270 000 $7 821 251 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
WRIGHT, SHANE
925 000 $925 000 $
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
800 000 $800 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA
850 000 $850 000 $
C
UFA

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20 déc. 2021 à 21 h 31
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Horrible for Calgary
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20 déc. 2021 à 21 h 36
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I dont see any scenario that mtl parts with their 1st next year
20 déc. 2021 à 21 h 38
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I dont see any scenario that mtl parts with their 1st next year


if we want Andersson it's the price to pay.
20 déc. 2021 à 21 h 39
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Horrible for Calgary


not that much if you want my opinion. future 1st and active 3rd line center is a good price for Andersson and Poirier
20 déc. 2021 à 21 h 46
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not that much if you want my opinion. future 1st and active 3rd line center is a good price for Anderson and Poirier


We don't need a 3rd line center and a 1st when we are contending, we need our top 4 dman
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20 déc. 2021 à 21 h 51
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Quoting: Gmonwy
We don't need a 3rd line center and a 1st when we are contending, we need our top 4 dman


but but we want to contend again at scf frown
20 déc. 2021 à 22 h 1
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Quoting: Gmonwy
Horrible for Calgary


Your kidding right! The 2023 1st alone will be top 10 again since very little was changed between this year's lineup and the proposed one. Dvorak + Harris alone would get Porrier and Anderson without us throwing in Norlinder and the 1st. Andersons value is what a 2nd and Poirier is maybe a late 1st. Yeah this is a serious overpay.
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20 déc. 2021 à 22 h 3
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Your kidding right! The 2023 1st alone will be top 10 again since very little was changed between this year's lineup and the proposed one. Dvorak + Harris alone would get Porrier and Anderson without us throwing in Norlinder and the 1st. Andersons value is what a 2nd and Poirier is maybe a late 1st. Yeah this is a serious overpay.


Andersson is worth more to us than a 2nd will ever be. He is a good top 4 dman. You don't know what you are talking about
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20 déc. 2021 à 22 h 7
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Andersson is worth more to us than a 2nd will ever be. He is a good top 4 dman. You don't know what you are talking about


He may be worth more to the Flames than a 2nd since they are trying to contend but his market value is a 2nd. No sense in adding a top 10 pick and a top 4D prospect on top of Dvorak and Harris. I agree the fit isn't there but the value is also off
20 déc. 2021 à 22 h 47
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Quoting: habitantlecolon
if we want Anderson it's the price to pay.


It's Andersson, and no Calgary is competing, they arent trading him
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20 déc. 2021 à 22 h 48
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Quoting: Campabee
Your kidding right! The 2023 1st alone will be top 10 again since very little was changed between this year's lineup and the proposed one. Dvorak + Harris alone would get Porrier and Anderson without us throwing in Norlinder and the 1st. Andersons value is what a 2nd and Poirier is maybe a late 1st. Yeah this is a serious overpay.


You actually think Dvorak is worth more tuan Andersson? Did you actually just say a 1st pair dman at age 24 on an excellent long term deal is only worth a 2nd? Major yikes there
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20 déc. 2021 à 22 h 51
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He may be worth more to the Flames than a 2nd since they are trying to contend but his market value is a 2nd. No sense in adding a top 10 pick and a top 4D prospect on top of Dvorak and Harris. I agree the fit isn't there but the value is also off


Pure ignorance
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20 déc. 2021 à 22 h 52
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
It's Andersson, and no Calgary is competing, they arent trading him


just trying to bring my team back to scf frown (also correted the missing s wink )
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20 déc. 2021 à 22 h 54
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just trying to bring my team back to scf frown (also correted the missing s wink )


Its probably not happening for a while
20 déc. 2021 à 22 h 59
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Andersson is worth more to us than a 2nd will ever be. He is a good top 4 dman. You don't know what you are talking about


I already agreed with you that he is worth more to the Flames than the open market value. Don't know why you are arguing about it. He is a lot like Chiarot who is also only worth a 2nd but contending teams will pay more especially with retention and since he is set to become a UFA. Montreal paying a 1st + middle 6 C + 2 top 4 D prospects is ridiculous overpay
20 déc. 2021 à 22 h 59
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Its probably not happening for a while


2 players, Carey back on track and we're in wink
20 déc. 2021 à 23 h 0
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I already agreed with you that he is worth more to the Flames than the open market value. Don't know why you are arguing about it. He is a lot like Chiarot who is also only worth a 2nd but contending teams will pay more especially with retention and since he is set to become a UFA. Montreal paying a 1st + middle 6 C + 2 top 4 D prospects is ridiculous overpay


but it's the overpay to clinch a trade !!
20 déc. 2021 à 23 h 5
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but it's the overpay to clinch a trade !!


Not for a team looking to rebuild/retool it makes little sense. Also look at it from Calgary's POV, they are in the same position we were last year. They are in a playoff spot looking to contend but you think they will give up one of their key top 4 D just cause are being ridiculous and are willing to overpay significantly. No Anderson os more valuable to them then futures right now.
20 déc. 2021 à 23 h 11
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Not for a team looking to rebuild/retool it makes little sense. Also look at it from Calgary's POV, they are in the same position we were last year. They are in a playoff spot looking to contend but you think they will give up one of their key top 4 D just cause are being ridiculous and are willing to overpay significantly. No Anderson os more valuable to them then futures right now.


so wich rd should i target for suck return???
20 déc. 2021 à 23 h 13
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You actually think Dvorak is worth more tuan Andersson? Did you actually just say a 1st pair dman at age 24 on an excellent long term deal is only worth a 2nd? Major yikes there


Anderson is not a top pairing D, last year he was being given away on this site cause he sucked this year he is all of a sudden a top pairing D. Talk about rose coloured glasses my friend. Like I said above his market value would be a 2nd much like Chiarot's but since Chiarot is a UFA and we would retain we could ask for a 1st from contenders. Anderson is on a long term contract something contenders aren't looking for and Calgary wouldn't retain so there is no value for contenders. As for non contenders the 1st's are lottery tickets for Bedard so none of them are worth giving up for Anderson so you are looking at a 2nd maybe 2 2nds max.
20 déc. 2021 à 23 h 17
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so wich rd should i target for suck return???


I would say forget trying to acquire players from contenders they won't give them up until at least the offseason. Also Montreal will not be trading 1st round picks for at least the next 4 years unless it is for someone truly elite and under 22 to fit in their window.
20 déc. 2021 à 23 h 59
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Anaheim will not be doing that my man
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21 déc. 2021 à 0 h 1
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I would say forget trying to acquire players from contenders they won't give them up until at least the offseason. Also Montreal will not be trading 1st round picks for at least the next 4 years unless it is for someone truly elite and under 22 to fit in their window.


what about Neal Pionk?
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Anaheim will not be doing that my man


why?
21 déc. 2021 à 0 h 14
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why?


Because we have Fowler and Lindholm at LD. If the trade deadline arrives and we don't have a commitment from Lindholm that he's re-signing, either we'll still be in contention for a playoff spot (in which case we'll keep him) or we won't, in which case we won't be acquiring Chiarot and that first-round draft pick will have even more value.
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