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If the leafs want Chychrun

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Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 15 déc. 2021
Publié: 15 déc. 2021
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15 déc. 2021 à 14 h 32
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Always nice for a Habs fan to show Leaf fans that a trade proposal won't work, thx
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15 déc. 2021 à 14 h 34
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Always nice for a Habs fan to show Leaf fans that a trade proposal won't work, thx


lol - Gross overpay by the Leafs. No thanks.
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15 déc. 2021 à 14 h 41
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Lol is there an everyone hates the leafs tax? Swap Liljegren for Holl
15 déc. 2021 à 14 h 44
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Lol is there an everyone hates the leafs tax? Swap Liljegren for Holl


Isn’t Liljgren an offensive Dman? Where’s his offensive production?
15 déc. 2021 à 14 h 55
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Always nice for a Habs fan to show Leaf fans that a trade proposal won't work, thx


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Lol is there an everyone hates the leafs tax? Swap Liljegren for Holl



You know you can be fan of a team and still know hockey and general right? Not an overpay by TOR, they give 2 1st round and a good Dman prospect. You don't want to swap for Holl since you need him to have a balanced D with robustness. Chychrun is 23 and signed until 2025, with this D with 3 great lines and the powerful offense, TOR could be Cup containders for the next 4 years.
15 déc. 2021 à 15 h 0
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fair deal tbh. leafs should consider if Arizona likes that return.
15 déc. 2021 à 15 h 12
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Quoting: Korax
You know you can be fan of a team and still know hockey and general right? Not an overpay by TOR, they give 2 1st round and a good Dman prospect. You don't want to swap for Holl since you need him to have a balanced D with robustness. Chychrun is 23 and signed until 2025, with this D with 3 great lines and the powerful offense, TOR could be Cup containders for the next 4 years.


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Alright I'll bite. So your asking the Leafs to ride Woll as there backup from now till the playoffs, I guess his total of 4 NHL games has made him solid enough to relay on.

They still need to address to a top 6 forward and ideally an offensive 3C.

But to make matters worse you have traded away a 1st and arguably there best prospect for another LD. I mean ****, just move Sandin there then.

And how can they possible make this work next year. But my mistake, you know hockey, Overpay for this team.
15 déc. 2021 à 15 h 21
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My offer would Holl, Robertson, Ritchie and 1st rounder, would be willing to add a low level prospect.
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15 déc. 2021 à 15 h 21
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Alright I'll bite. So your asking the Leafs to ride Woll as there backup from now till the playoffs, I guess his total of 4 NHL games has made him solid enough to relay on.

They still need to address to a top 6 forward and ideally an offensive 3C.

But to make matters worse you have traded away a 1st and arguably there best prospect for another LD. I mean ****, just move Sandin there then.

And how can they possible make this work next year. But my mistake, you know hockey, Overpay for this team.


You don't need an offensive 3rd center with this type of team

What they need to adress in the top 6 is the lack of robustness that Ritchie was supposed to fill

The goal was not to be condescendant my dude

What to you mean next year? Move some dead cap space like Ritchie, but right now you are trying to reach the cup this year

You have a great season and Campbell is an Elite goalie this year, Woll can have a couple game without killing the season, just give him experience. I am not overvaluing him

Maybe Leafs will try to send Robertson instead of Amirov, it could work
15 déc. 2021 à 15 h 23
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My offer would Holl, Robertson, Ritchie and 1st rounder, would be willing to add a low level prospect.


I am Arizona and I have a 23 yo Dman that is one of the best in the league, I won't give him for a late 1st, a robust Dman and 2 B prospects. I at least want Sandin or Liljegren. Plus you aren't giving up enough cap space
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15 déc. 2021 à 15 h 26
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You don't need an offensive 3rd center with this type of team

What they need to adress in the top 6 is the lack of robustness that Ritchie was supposed to fill

The goal was not to be condescendant my dude

What to you mean next year? Move some dead cap space like Ritchie, but right now you are trying to reach the cup this year

You have a great season and Campbell is an Elite goalie this year, Woll can have a couple game without killing the season, just give him experience. I am not overvaluing him

Maybe Leafs will try to send Robertson instead of Amirov, it could work


You would be already 4mil over the cap next year with Holl on LTIR (was goin to trade all these players but would not fit in the pic) So to my point, you'd need to move out Holl, Ritchie, Kerfoot, replace them and bank on Kallgren, or Woll as your backup. lol come man, try again. You have proved your point, Chychrun would not fit on the Leafs. I appreciate this post for other fans.
15 déc. 2021 à 15 h 27
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I am Arizona and I have a 23 yo Dman that is one of the best in the league, I won't give him for a late 1st, a robust Dman and 2 B prospects. I at least want Sandin or Liljegren. Plus you aren't giving up enough cap space


I'd be willing to include Liljegren. But not both Liljegren and Amirov. (not considering Sandin a rookie/prospect at this point) You're asking for our best defensive rookie/prospect AND our best forward prospect AND a first. I agree that Chychrun is really good but these blockbusters always tend to be underwhelming. This is eichel-level return, which isn't warranted
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15 déc. 2021 à 15 h 28
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You would be already 4mil over the cap next year with Holl on LTIR (was goin to trade all these players but would not fit in the pic) So to my point, you'd need to move out Holl, Ritchie, Kerfoot, replace them and bank on Kallgren, or Woll as your backup. lol come man, try again. You have proved your point, Chychrun would not fit on the Leafs. I appreciate this post for other fans.


That was no the point... I like Chychrun to the leafs... it would give you a winning team, you just missinterpreted it and felt attacked
15 déc. 2021 à 15 h 29
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I'd be willing to include Liljegren. But not both Liljegren and Amirov. (not considering Sandin a rookie/prospect at this point) You're asking for our best defensive rookie/prospect AND our best forward prospect AND a first. I agree that Chychrun is really good but these blockbusters always tend to be underwhelming. This is eichel-level return, which isn't warranted


yeah fair enough
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Isn’t Liljgren an offensive Dman? Where’s his offensive production?


that's what he was drafted as but in the minors over the past few years Marlies development spent a lot of time working on his defensive game so that he could make the jump. To me it's gotten to a point where he's not a crazy offensive D but he's sound defensively and has the puck-moving/transition skills to break it out and be a positive influence on the offensive cycle. Will make for a top 4 D that isn't eye popping but just generally effective
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15 déc. 2021 à 15 h 30
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That was no the point... I like Chychrun to the leafs... it would give you a winning team, you just missinterpreted it and felt attacked


lol who is attacked, you made a terrible trade. And showed other Leaf fans that fitting him in long term would not be possible. This is a great post
16 déc. 2021 à 0 h 10
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Isn’t Liljgren an offensive Dman? Where’s his offensive production?


No, he moves the puck well and is more of a stay home type with high I.Q.
16 déc. 2021 à 0 h 17
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I'd be willing to include Liljegren. But not both Liljegren and Amirov. (not considering Sandin a rookie/prospect at this point) You're asking for our best defensive rookie/prospect AND our best forward prospect AND a first. I agree that Chychrun is really good but these blockbusters always tend to be underwhelming. This is eichel-level return, which isn't warranted


Liligren is the leafs best RD for the future. So you have to trade Muzzin, Rielly or Brodie which all have NMC of some kind.
16 déc. 2021 à 9 h 44
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Quoting: Korax
I am Arizona and I have a 23 yo Dman that is one of the best in the league, I won't give him for a late 1st, a robust Dman and 2 B prospects. I at least want Sandin or Liljegren. Plus you aren't giving up enough cap space


no way you just said Robertson is a B prospect
 
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