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Chychrun complicated

Créé par: The_Rocket
Équipe: 2021-22 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 15 déc. 2021
Publié: 15 déc. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
This is a quantity for quality trade I saw posted on Twitter.

Personally I think it’s not enough, even though chychrun has had a really bad season so far.

But posting it anyways. Basically a 3 way trade with Carolina and arizona
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Fast, Jesper
  2. Suzuki, Ryan
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
CAR
  1. Miller, J.T. (1 475 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Canucks launder miller through Arizona to retain additional salary on top of this
2.
ARI
  1. DiPietro, Michael
  2. Fast, Jesper
  3. Rathbone, Jack
  4. Suzuki, Ryan
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
  6. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
Détails additionnels:
3 NHL Ready prospects, a roster player, a 1st and a 3rd
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Frais appliqués
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $79 260 659 $648 780 $2 550 000 $2 239 341 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
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5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
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4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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891 667 $891 667 $ (Bonis de performance200 000 $$200K)
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 3
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2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
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1 225 000 $1 225 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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7 260 000 $7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 5
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 500 000 $$2M)
G
NMC
UFA - 1
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
725 000 $725 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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15 déc. 2021 à 12 h 15
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I think they can get a better deal than that IMO
15 déc. 2021 à 13 h 10
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As a canes fan, I really like this, albeit I don’t really want to give up Fast that much. However, as a Yotes fan, this is completely unrealistic. Coyotes will get a lot more for Chychrun AND retaining money on Miller. Arizona, if they are going to shop Chychrun, will want an extremely futures based package. Plus, it would have to be a combination of quality and quantity if you are wanting Chychrun. He is a cornerstone piece that will not come cheap. It would likely take a top prospect, along with a high end prospect, with at least 1 first round pick and more draft capital to really get Arizona to consider. Arizona doesn’t want to trade Chychrun right now as they want to build around him, but I’m sure if someone wants him bad enough, they would be willing to overpay for him. Really like the premise, but the execution was a bit lacking. Good job though.
15 déc. 2021 à 14 h 40
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As a canes fan, I really like this, albeit I don’t really want to give up Fast that much. However, as a Yotes fan, this is completely unrealistic. Coyotes will get a lot more for Chychrun AND retaining money on Miller. Arizona, if they are going to shop Chychrun, will want an extremely futures based package. Plus, it would have to be a combination of quality and quantity if you are wanting Chychrun. He is a cornerstone piece that will not come cheap. It would likely take a top prospect, along with a high end prospect, with at least 1 first round pick and more draft capital to really get Arizona to consider. Arizona doesn’t want to trade Chychrun right now as they want to build around him, but I’m sure if someone wants him bad enough, they would be willing to overpay for him. Really like the premise, but the execution was a bit lacking. Good job though.


I don't understand why Carolina considers this. Fast is healthy, and Suzuki is one of their first call-ups. If they wanted to move them badly, why not cut out the middle man and throw Makiniemi, Gunler, Heimosalmi, etc for Chychurn and just take the better player?
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15 déc. 2021 à 22 h 50
#4
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Van giving up Miller MDP & Rathbone for Chychrun is too pricey to say the least.

Often injured & further stripping the prospect depth is not happening.

No rush with MDP while grooming in the AHL.
Rathbone the same & a smooth scoring D.
Miller should be approached in the offseason to see what an extension will cost. Go from there if dealt or not. He’s a big piece & if traded will fetch a lot or extended & helps a ton as a central piece of the team.
 
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