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Roast Me

Créé par: ngikas
Date de création initiale: 14 déc. 2021
Publié: 14 déc. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Bruins de Boston
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This team isnt winning a Stanley Cup this year IMO. But before you absolutely roast me, just hear me out. The past 2-3 seasons we've lost cornerstone pieces (Krejci, Chara, Krug, Rask - if you want to count him you can) to FA for nothing in return. Granted they were in a different position and looked like a true cup contending team so I'm not blaming them for getting nothing before each of the players departures. But this year I wouldn't say they are that same team thats expected to be at the top of the standings or alive at the end of the playoff bracket. So why not use arguably your most valuable piece whose on a contract year to start gaining back a young roster player or some assets?

So maybe this isnt the completely right package to get for Bergeron but it does give them a potential option for a future 1/2C in Robert Thomas and it really solidifies STL center depth for another deep run. Idk if this works for STL cap but I'm sure theres a way that it could work. And this is honestly just an example, doesnt have to be STL. I honestly have no clue how to value Bergeron in a trade because I really never thought I'd be mocking this up but here I am. Maybe theres another pick/prospect coming BOS way? Idk, you can tell me below when you roast me.

DeBrusk will be moved, idk what for but I expect it to happen.

Studnicka; I'd move on from him too, could use him as a sweetener to get an extra pick thrown into a trade. Stud should've been traded years ago when other teams had legitimate interest, the organization and fans were high on him, including myself but he's been nothing but a bust to this point. Ppl will argue that there isnt space in the lineup for him. Well my counter to that is he probably just isnt good enough to be in the lineup. Studnicka has done nothing to show he belongs on a NHL roster or he would be here right now.

The 2015 draft was a complete fail (in retrospect but still an ultimate fail). I know I'm ready to move on from Don Sweeney, I've been ready. Theres a lot of work to do to get this team heading back in the right direction. They still have some real solid pieces to build around (Pasta, McAvoy, Carlo, Swayman).

Now with all of this being said, we know none of this will happen. The way Sweeney constructed the UFA signings this off-season is I think a true indicator of Bergy's shelf life. Reilly 3 years, Forbort 3 years, Folingo 2 years, Nosek 2 years, Haula 2 years. In my eyes this is Sweeney's version of "gearing up" for one more push with Bergy. I dont think Bergeron is done after this year, I think we'll see him sign a 2-3 year extension.

Last but not least before you roast me, just remember the road to the 2011 Stanley Cup all began with the trade of Jumbo Joe.

Okay, now roast!
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BOS
  1. Thomas, Robert
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  1. Bergeron, Patrice
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BOS
  1. 2022 3e round pick (SJS)
  2. 2023 5e round pick (SJS)
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  1. DeBrusk, Jake
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  • Chris Wagner: 225 000 $ (1 350 000 $)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $72 674 841 $1 956 507 $232 500 $8 825 159 $
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Marchand, Brad
6 125 000 $
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Thomas, Robert
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Pastrnak, David
6 666 667 $
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Hall, Taylor
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UFA - 4
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Coyle, Charlie
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UFA - 5
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Lysell, Fabian
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Lauko, Jakub
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Haula, Erik
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Smith, Craig
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Frederic, Trent
1 050 000 $
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Nosek, Tomas
1 750 000 $
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Foligno, Nick
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Moore, John
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McAvoy, Charlie
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UFA - 1
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Swayman, Jeremy
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Grzelcyk, Matt
3 687 500 $
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UFA - 3
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Carlo, Brandon
4 100 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
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Ullmark, Linus
5 000 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 4
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Forbort, Derek
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NTC
UFA - 3
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Clifton, Connor
1 000 000 $
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Zboril, Jakub
725 000 $
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Reilly, Mike
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Lazar, Curtis
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14 déc. 2021 à 20 h 23
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blues do not consider this
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I’m not going to roast you. This idea is too bad to roast. It’s more of a roll eyes and move on kind of ACGM.
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14 déc. 2021 à 20 h 27
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I’m not going to roast you. This idea is too bad to roast. It’s more of a roll eyes and move on kind of ACGM.


But do you at least see where I'm coming from here? Why not move Bergy for assets and then re-sign him in the summer? I forgot to add that Bergy needs to accept any trade involved so that would maybe hinder everything I just talked about. But again, re-gain some assets, if Bergy allows it to happen and then re-sign him come Summer 2022.
14 déc. 2021 à 20 h 27
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Thomas is not available, thanks. Kid's damn near an assist per game player already, and probably the Blues' captain one day.
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14 déc. 2021 à 20 h 28
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Your mom doesn't love you Oh not that type of roast
jk but fr Blues dont do even conisder that
Bergeon just walks
we dont have the cap space
Thomas is our future 1C
hes cheap for next year too like there are so many problems with it
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14 déc. 2021 à 20 h 29
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Thomas is not available, thanks. Kid's damn near an assist per game player already, and probably the Blues' captain one day.


I hadnt even though of that part either lmao Buch Thomas Kyrou Line about to go off
14 déc. 2021 à 20 h 29
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But do you at least see where I'm coming from here? Why not move Bergy for assets and then re-sign him in the summer? I forgot to add that Bergy needs to accept any trade involved so that would maybe hinder everything I just talked about. But again, re-gain some assets, if Bergy allows it to happen and then re-sign him come Summer 2022.


Culture for one.

It’s reactionary junk.
14 déc. 2021 à 20 h 29
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blues do not consider this


Like I think this is a pretty good deal for a future HoF, and I know Robert Thomas is a great young player. But if the Blues had Reilly-Bergy 1-2 punch up the middle they become a much harder team to play against than they already are. Do you risk a young player? Yes, but if it results in another Cup it's worth it IMO.
14 déc. 2021 à 20 h 32
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Most importantly, aside from the blues not being in a position to do this, is that the odds on favorite to win the cup actually winning it isn’t the norm. Think the blues thought they were winning the cup 25 games in? How about LA when they snuck in twice? It’s just a really poorly thought out concept.
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14 déc. 2021 à 20 h 37
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If bergeron held a press conference and said hes retiring after this year Sweeny still wouldn't have the balls to move him.
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14 déc. 2021 à 20 h 41
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Most importantly, aside from the blues not being in a position to do this, is that the odds on favorite to win the cup actually winning it isn’t the norm. Think the blues thought they were winning the cup 25 games in? How about LA when they snuck in twice? It’s just a really poorly thought out concept.


Understandable, but in the case of the Blues, they had the pieces to compete, same for the Kings. The B's are weak on the left side on defense, their secondary scoring is still pretty abysmal, this team unfortunately just isnt built to win. And you're not wrong, its still early in the season and they do have games in hand on a lot of teams. I probably should've noted this wouldn't be something done now and done closer to the TDL when the Bruins have a better understanding of their fate this season. Idk I just think the Bruins have to actually consider talking about doing something like this if the season does head south.
14 déc. 2021 à 20 h 43
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Thomas is not available, thanks. Kid's damn near an assist per game player already, and probably the Blues' captain one day.


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Your mom doesn't love you Oh not that type of roast
jk but fr Blues dont do even conisder that
Bergeon just walks
we dont have the cap space
Thomas is our future 1C
hes cheap for next year too like there are so many problems with it


Hypothetically if the B's shopped Bergy, what do you think the asking price would be?
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Understandable, but in the case of the Blues, they had the pieces to compete, same for the Kings. The B's are weak on the left side on defense, their secondary scoring is still pretty abysmal, this team unfortunately just isnt built to win. And you're not wrong, its still early in the season and they do have games in hand on a lot of teams. I probably should've noted this wouldn't be something done now and done closer to the TDL when the Bruins have a better understanding of their fate this season. Idk I just think the Bruins have to actually consider talking about doing something like this if the season does head south.


Sheesh pal. Stop listening to Felger and jazz, take a few deep breaths.
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Like I think this is a pretty good deal for a future HoF, and I know Robert Thomas is a great young player. But if the Blues had Reilly-Bergy 1-2 punch up the middle they become a much harder team to play against than they already are. Do you risk a young player? Yes, but if it results in another Cup it's worth it IMO.


Even with bergeron the avs will steamroll them lmao. no use in giving up thomas
14 déc. 2021 à 20 h 44
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Hypothetically if the B's shopped Bergy, what do you think the asking price would be?

Hypothetically, if the sun didn’t rise tomorrow what do you think the reason would be?
14 déc. 2021 à 20 h 50
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Hypothetically, if the sun didn’t rise tomorrow what do you think the reason would be?


That I teleported to Alaska
14 déc. 2021 à 20 h 54
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Hypothetically if the B's shopped Bergy, what do you think the asking price would be?


For one it would be from the blues but if they are shopping him proably a first
for hertl if he was traded he comes with an extension almost likey but Bergeron probably gets less as i dont see him signing anywhere else than boston
14 déc. 2021 à 23 h 23
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You realize that there will be a bad reaction to this if any Bergeron trade ever happened right?
 
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