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Its MILLER TIME

Créé par: CD282
Équipe: 2021-22 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 14 déc. 2021
Publié: 14 déc. 2021
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If everyone is healthy at the deadline I could see Holland not making any changes to G or D. He brought in Keith for his playoff experience and puck moving ability, he's not going to change directions now. And he re-signed Smith to a 2-year deal just a few months ago, if he's healthy between now and the deadline I wouldn't be surprised if Holland sticks with him. Both Koskinen and Skinner have shown that they can be relied on in case of injury, so why bring in a 4th goalie?

In any case, this AGM was mainly to test the Vancouver trade that Zmach and I were discussing on another thread. I've seen Canucks fans express interest in Kassian but they don't want to give up much, so he's here representing a cap hit going the other way to make Miller's cap hit workable for Edmonton. Suggestions?
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14 déc. 2021 à 16 h 36
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Absolutely not for miller
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14 déc. 2021 à 16 h 36
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Lol not close to enough for Miller. Kassian is a cap dump so a 1st doesn’t get it done
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14 déc. 2021 à 16 h 37
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Lol not close to enough for Miller. Kassian is a cap dump so a 1st doesn’t get it done

No he isn't. He may not have much value (and I haven't assigned any to him here) but he's not a complete dump.
14 déc. 2021 à 16 h 38
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Not with that package its not.
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14 déc. 2021 à 16 h 39
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To take back Kassian and to trade Miller for a late first - you're probably going to have to throw in Bourgault or Broberg.

Probably Kassian + Broberg/Bourgault +1st & 3rd for Miller (and maybe you can get a little bit of retention).
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14 déc. 2021 à 16 h 39
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Brutal value for the leading scorer on the Canucks
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14 déc. 2021 à 16 h 39
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I can't see the Oilers giving up Kassian TBH. He's such a valuable player come playoff time, and he's been playing great this season
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14 déc. 2021 à 16 h 40
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No he isn't. He may not have much value (and I haven't assigned any to him here) but he's not a complete dump.


Kassian is 100% a cap dump
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14 déc. 2021 à 16 h 41
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Don't like it for Nucks. Just no incentive here, only relatively low picks and an overpaid bottom-6 player for a PPG player in a weak team, and especially not incentive to deal the guy to a division rival.
14 déc. 2021 à 16 h 41
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No he isn't. He may not have much value (and I haven't assigned any to him here) but he's not a complete dump.


He definitely is a cap dump. Even if he isn’t, just one first is not enough for Miller. Would have to add a top prospect at least considering Oilers are a division rival
14 déc. 2021 à 16 h 41
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Kassian + Holloway + 1st + 2nd + Lavoie

Holloway + 1st is cost for miller on his own

Premium charged for taking back kassian (2nd), premium charged for same division (Lavoie)
14 déc. 2021 à 16 h 42
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Habs probably say yes
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14 déc. 2021 à 16 h 45
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I can't see the Oilers giving up Kassian TBH. He's such a valuable player come playoff time, and he's been playing great this season


“Come playoff time”
Don’t worry about that. The oilers won’t be getting there.
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14 déc. 2021 à 16 h 47
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Kassian + Holloway + 1st + 2nd + Lavoie

Holloway + 1st is cost for miller on his own

Premium charged for taking back kassian (2nd), premium charged for same division (Lavoie)

Holloway has more value to me than Miller alone. Considering age, ceiling and contracts, he's just got more value.

If that's the ask, Miller won't be moved.
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14 déc. 2021 à 16 h 53
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Holloway has more value to me than Miller alone. Considering age, ceiling and contracts, he's just got more value.

If that's the ask, Miller won't be moved.


If you honestly think that a proespect like Holloway has more value than Miller then u must not think too highly of Miller. Holloway is an A prospect, but has already had 2 surgeries on his wrist. Lots of still unknown with him.

Considering fans of teams like the NYR have considered Schneider + a 1st, or leafs fans have offered Robertson + a first, I think a top prospect + a 1st seems pretty standard.

The premiums charged for taking back a cap dump AND dealing in the division are also pretty standard.

Kassian has multiple years left, is older, and is now 1.5 seasons removed from the 2019-2020 season which earned him his contract and has had poor scoring stats and underlying numbers ever since then. 2nd rounder to take him is pretty fair considering 2 years left AFTER this one on his deal
14 déc. 2021 à 16 h 54
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Miller has more value than that and it doesn't make sense with the upswing the canucks are on especially to a divisional rival
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I can't see the Oilers giving up Kassian TBH. He's such a valuable player come playoff time, and he's been playing great this season


Kassian could very well be bought out if he doesnt show up by playoffs.
14 déc. 2021 à 17 h 44
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Kassian could very well be bought out if he doesnt show up by playoffs.


Just curios, why do you think that? I think myself and most Oilers fans have been pretty happy with him this year. Love how he seems to fit in on just about any line, and love the energy he brings
14 déc. 2021 à 18 h 1
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Just curios, why do you think that? I think myself and most Oilers fans have been pretty happy with him this year. Love how he seems to fit in on just about any line, and love the energy he brings


Is that sarcasm? Kassian has been a ghost save for about 2 games. He hasnt even been trying the last couple games no forecheck no hits nothing.
14 déc. 2021 à 18 h 12
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Broberg and a first might just get it done.
14 déc. 2021 à 18 h 50
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To take back Kassian and to trade Miller for a late first - you're probably going to have to throw in Bourgault or Broberg.

Probably Kassian + Broberg/Bourgault +1st & 3rd for Miller (and maybe you can get a little bit of retention).


if your getting brogerg of bourgault with would be 50% retention and 3rd becomes a 5-6. a 1st and broberg or bourgault is essentially 2 firsts
 
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