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Créé par: Wadejos123
Date de création initiale: 13 déc. 2021
Publié: 13 déc. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Blackhawks de Chicago
Transactions
1.
CHI
  1. Kassian, Zack
  2. Koskinen, Mikko
  3. Turris, Kyle
  4. Holloway, Dylan
  5. 2022 1e round pick (EDM)
  6. 2023 1e round pick (EDM)
  7. 2022 2e round pick (EDM)
  8. 2023 2e round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Kane, Patrick (5 250 000 $ retained)
  2. Fleury, Marc-André (3 500 000 $ retained)
  3. 2022 3e round pick (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
Condition in Kieth Trade Removed

EDM gets 2 years of Kane, 1 of Flower, and the hawks take all their cap dumps
2.
CHI
  1. 2022 2e round pick (STL)
Later of the Rangers two picks
NYR
  1. Strome, Dylan
3.
CHI
  1. 2022 3e round pick (TBL)
Boosts CBJ's odds of the Chicago 1st being 3rd-5th
CBJ
  1. De Haan, Calvin
4.
CHI
  1. 2022 1e round pick (CGY)
Any team looking to add scoring at the deadline. He's an RFA after this year so not even a rental
CGY
  1. Kubalik, Dominik
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Patrick Kane: 5 250 000 $ (50%)
  • Marc-André Fleury: 3 500 000 $ (100%)
  • Olli Määttä: 750 108 $ (18%)
  • Marc-André Fleury: 3 500 000 $ (50%)
Enfoui
  • Brett Connolly: 2 375 000 $ (3 500 000 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $69 642 505 $452 439 $3 465 000 $11 857 495 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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DeBrincat, Alex
6 400 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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Dach, Kirby
925 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 1
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Carpenter, Ryan
1 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
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Hagel, Brandon
1 500 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 3
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Toews, Jonathan
10 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de CHI
Nylander, Alexander
874 125 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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Borgström, Henrik
1 000 000 $
C
RFA - 2
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Turris, Kyle
1 650 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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Kurashev, Philipp
842 500 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
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Slavin, Josiah
842 500 $
C
RFA - 2
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Johnson, Reese
880 833 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
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Kassian, Zack
3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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McCabe, Jake
4 000 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 4
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Jones, Seth
5 400 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 1
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Lankinen, Kevin
800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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Stillman, Riley
1 350 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de CHI
Murphy, Connor
3 850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de EDM
Koskinen, Mikko
4 500 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 1
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Jones, Caleb
850 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de CHI
Gustafsson, Erik
800 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de CHI
Gabriel, Kurtis
750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de CHI
Khaira, Jujhar
975 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de CHI
Johnson, Tyler
5 000 000 $
AD, C
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de CHI
Kalynuk, Wyatt
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
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Shaw, Andrew
3 900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1

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13 déc. 2021 à 13 h 15
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Koskinen has been better this year, no? Seems like he is worth his cap hit now (wouldn't be a cap dump)
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13 déc. 2021 à 13 h 16
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Hard no for oilers
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13 déc. 2021 à 13 h 17
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I actually don't know what to think about this. It would be a almost guaranteed cup winning move as well it kills the future of the team though, maybe swap holloway with bourgault? It would be a blockbuster for the ages tho.
13 déc. 2021 à 13 h 18
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Koskinen has been better this year, no? Seems like he is worth his cap hit now (wouldn't be a cap dump)


He has. Aside from letting in a few regrettable goals hes been decent. Oilers miss smitty dearly tho
13 déc. 2021 à 13 h 21
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Can you take similar cap from Calgary based on what he is going to get on hs raise? I am interested in Kubalik but we can't afford his raise
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13 déc. 2021 à 13 h 26
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Koskinen has been better this year, no? Seems like he is worth his cap hit now (wouldn't be a cap dump)


While that's true, Fleury at 3.5 mil is light-years better than Koskinen. Besides, Koskinen's got to be expected to regress back to his career averages at some point.
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13 déc. 2021 à 13 h 28
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Couldn't you try to maneuver to get Kravtsov instead of a 2nd? He would easily be top-9 on this team, potentially top-6.
EDIT: Just looked back at the roster. While I'm admittedly not familiar with the Blackhawks, I think that he's easily a 1st line RW on that team.
13 déc. 2021 à 13 h 57
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Quoting: JeffSkinnerFan53
While that's true, Fleury at 3.5 mil is light-years better than Koskinen. Besides, Koskinen's got to be expected to regress back to his career averages at some point.


Well, my second point would have been that EDM could trade Koskinen for positive value.
Devils may be looking for veteran on final year since Bernier's injury may be season-ending.
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13 déc. 2021 à 14 h 5
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Quoting: JeffSkinnerFan53
While that's true, Fleury at 3.5 mil is light-years better than Koskinen. Besides, Koskinen's got to be expected to regress back to his career averages at some point.

Floury .913
Koskinen .907

Light years?

Also, Koskinen's career save percentage is... wait for it... .907
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13 déc. 2021 à 14 h 10
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Quoting: CD282
Floury .913
Koskinen .907

Light years?

Also, Koskinen's career save percentage is... wait for it... .907


The post I was commenting on suggested that Koskinen was better this year than previously. His performance at the beginning of the year has probably been weighed down by the Oilers's recent slump. Besides that, Fleury is a recent Vezina winner. Take out Colliton's coaching, and he has a .939. That is light-years better than a .907.

For reference: Fleury earns 500th win
13 déc. 2021 à 14 h 20
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exo2769 already posted that idea in regards to CBJ- https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/536367?post_id=2842723

The issue is still the same.

Even if he is your #1 LD, I’m not sure the loss of DeHaan, considering how bad CHI otherwise may be, is enough to be consequential in anything more than, what, a loss or two? The guy hasn’t scored a single point all season.

I’m not sure giving up the value of a 3rd rounder is enough to make a difference in order to “buy” a loss or two. Plus, for every draft spot “worse” for CHI (slash better for CBJ), the odds you gain of the better draft spot have to be taken in with the improved odds the pick is 1 or 2 OA, and is retained by CHI.

And I mean, if that happens, sure the pick is then unprotected in 2023, but if CHI gets a Shane Wright, I don’t see them as being a worse team next year. Still probably bottom-10, but not worse.

Then again, I don’t follow them as closely. As a CBJ fan, I’m just tracking them because of the pick.
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13 déc. 2021 à 14 h 37
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Take out Holloway and I think it's a fair offer.
13 déc. 2021 à 16 h 1
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Koskinen has been better this year, no? Seems like he is worth his cap hit now (wouldn't be a cap dump)


Flower has been way better aside from the first like 8 games
13 déc. 2021 à 16 h 3
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Can you take similar cap from Calgary based on what he is going to get on hs raise? I am interested in Kubalik but we can't afford his raise


Not sure what cap you wan't us to take but yeah. And taking dead cap comes at a cost of course
13 déc. 2021 à 16 h 22
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Quoting: Gregzky
Take out Holloway and I think it's a fair offer.


A couple late firsts doesn't get you kane half retained. Holloway would be a must have in any kane trade
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13 déc. 2021 à 17 h 1
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Quoting: SociallyHawkward
A couple late firsts doesn't get you kane half retained. Holloway would be a must have in any kane trade


not to mention Flower is in here half retained, and all of koskinen, kassain, turris have negative value
13 déc. 2021 à 18 h 15
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I would like to see more value in the Kane trade. Kassian is a painful dump, the 2 1sts are going to be 25-30 with Kane and MAF there and Holloway's inclusion doesn't increase the value enough.
 
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