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Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 8 déc. 2021
Publié: 8 déc. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I hate to let go of Toffoli, but considering his production, cap hit, and age, I think this is a very good deal for the rangers.
I would have liked to acquire a few more 2nd rd picks as well, but 4 first rd picks should be a very very good start in attaining high end talent that can help this team over the next decade. only one of those picks will be in the top 5 (Habs own pick).
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Koskinen, Mikko
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
Oilers get rid of Koskinen and get a decent 1b in return that is at a very very good cap hit.
2.
MTL
  1. Dumont, Gabriel
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TBL)
Détails additionnels:
Consdering the Bolts traded a 1st for Savard, I'm sure they'd be willing to trade a 1st for a player who is much much better than Chiarot.
TBL
  1. Chiarot, Ben (1 750 000 $ retained)
3.
MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (WPG)
VAN
  1. Lehkonen, Artturi
Détails additionnels:
Van's PK is trash. Would they consider a low cost PK who is an RFA after this year?
4.
5.
MTL
  1. Galloway, Tyson [Liste de réserve]
  2. Sundqvist, Oskar
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (STL)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $67 299 227 $597 561 $2 325 000 $14 200 773 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
C
UFA - 1
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
UFA - 4
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 6
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750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance637 500 $$638K)
DG
RFA - 1
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2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 5
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761 250 $761 250 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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2 425 000 $2 425 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 5
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2

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8 déc. 2021 à 12 h 32
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Quoting: Drshnuckels91
Read the link that guy posted


Thanks. It's still not a significant difference though. The most glaring differences are that Allen faces almost twice as many rush chances, while Koskinen gives up a few more rebounds. That just gives Allen more of an edge.
What am I missing?
8 déc. 2021 à 12 h 35
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Quoting: Drshnuckels91
Read the link that guy posted


numbers are from the link posted bud.
8 déc. 2021 à 12 h 47
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TB unless someone gets hurt around the TDL they aren't going to be making any moves. If they do I see them going after a Manson or klingberg not Chariot


ya which would make a lot more sense on their end. Fully agree,
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8 déc. 2021 à 12 h 55
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Over?

Bogosian,Rutta,Foote
8 déc. 2021 à 12 h 59
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Bogosian,Rutta,Foote


Nope nope maybe Hedman numbers are much better with Rutta as his Partner than with anyone else. Bogosian has played extremely well here
8 déc. 2021 à 13 h 1
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Nope nope maybe


Bruh… How could you think these bottom pair guys are more valuable than a guy that was playing 30 minutes per game for the Stanley Cup finalist…🤦‍♂️
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8 déc. 2021 à 13 h 10
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Bruh… How could you think these bottom pair guys are more valuable than a guy that was playing 30 minutes per game for the Stanley Cup finalist…🤦‍♂️

You mean perhaps the absolutely worst Final team ever? Watch Bogosian he's played really well,and Hedman play better when Rutta is his partner so they aren't giving up a 1for a guy who'd be a 7th defenseman
8 déc. 2021 à 13 h 45
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Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
You mean perhaps the absolutely worst Final team ever? Watch Bogosian he's played really well,and Hedman play better when Rutta is his partner so they aren't giving up a 1for a guy who'd be a 7th defenseman

LOLLLLL classic Florida sports fan lmfaoo
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Thanks. It's still not a significant difference though. The most glaring differences are that Allen faces almost twice as many rush chances, while Koskinen gives up a few more rebounds. That just gives Allen more of an edge.
What am I missing?

You're missing the fact that Koskinen faced more expected goals, more high danger shots, more total shots and that those shots were from closer range. And that he stops more pucks.

Koskinen > Allen
8 déc. 2021 à 14 h 9
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Rangers/Habs trade is good but the Rangers pass since we cannot afford Toffoli's cap hit next season unless money is retained.
8 déc. 2021 à 14 h 25
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LOLLLLL classic Florida sports fan lmfaoo


You ever have a HALL OF FAMER ( who has also been a GM and radio anylyst) tell you you evaluate talent well . I have by the name of Phil Esposito.
8 déc. 2021 à 14 h 37
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You ever have a HALL OF FAMER ( who has also been a GM and radio anylyst) tell you you evaluate talent well . I have by the name of Phil Esposito.


oh yes., the great phil esposito. Any team would be lucky to hire him as GM right now. In fact, why is briesbois the GM of the bolts? you should be protesting against that. in fact, his one opinion should matter more than everyone elses's opinion!
insane bro. insane lmao.
8 déc. 2021 à 14 h 41
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LOLLLLL classic Florida sports fan lmfaoo


If they played any other division last year they are 6th at best and Carey Price got them there
8 déc. 2021 à 14 h 50
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Lmao chirot isn’t worth a 3rd much less a 1st
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8 déc. 2021 à 14 h 52
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oh yes., the great phil esposito. Any team would be lucky to hire him as GM right now. In fact, why is briesbois the GM of the bolts? you should be protesting against that. in fact, his one opinion should matter more than everyone elses's opinion!
insane bro. insane lmao.


No but to say Phil doesn't know hockey is crazy .
8 déc. 2021 à 15 h 26
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Lmao chirot isn’t worth a 3rd much less a 1st


from what GM's are saying, he's worth a first. on an expiring deal, can play top 4 mins, big body, has playoff experience. he can easily fetch a first. david savard fetched more than 1st last year.
8 déc. 2021 à 15 h 27
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No but to say Phil doesn't know hockey is crazy .


so is relying on one opinion
8 déc. 2021 à 15 h 30
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from what GM's are saying, he's worth a first. on an expiring deal, can play top 4 mins, big body, has playoff experience. he can easily fetch a first. david savard fetched more than 1st last year.


And David savard was waaayayyyyayaya better than chirot has ever been. Just because a writer from Montreal said chirots worth a 1st doesn’t mean that’s what gm’s actually think
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And David savard was waaayayyyyayaya better than chirot has ever been. Just because a writer from Montreal said chirots worth a 1st doesn’t mean that’s what gm’s actually think


david savard was always a 6th or 7th d-man at best. you must be dumb deaf and blind to assume he's better than chiarot. but have it your way bud.
8 déc. 2021 à 15 h 33
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david savard was always a 6th or 7th d-man at best. you must be dumb deaf and blind to assume he's better than chiarot. but have it your way bud.


Savard was and is one of the best penalty killers in the league and from the beginning of his career up until last year he was one of the best shutdown dman in the league. And even as a rookie he was never a 6th dman loooool. I understand that you know nothing outside of your Montreal bubble but please if you’re going to insult people try to atleast know what you’re talking about
8 déc. 2021 à 15 h 39
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Joel Edmundson, the dude that hasn't played in 5 months (and doesn't seem very likely to play in the next month), will get a 1st AND a valuable roster player AND a prospect?

I wouldn't hold your breath getting that from the Blues, especially from the team that reduced his ice time and made him a healthy scratch in the 2019 SCF on top of taking him to arbitration.
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Joel Edmundson, the dude that hasn't played in 5 months (and doesn't seem very likely to play in the next month), will get a 1st AND a valuable roster player AND a prospect?

I wouldn't hold your breath getting that from the Blues, especially from the team that reduced his ice time and made him a healthy scratch in the 2019 SCF on top of taking him to arbitration.


just heard it from another blues fan and some blues beat writer that they would have interest in him
8 déc. 2021 à 15 h 41
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Savard was and is one of the best penalty killers in the league and from the beginning of his career up until last year he was one of the best shutdown dman in the league. And even as a rookie he was never a 6th dman loooool. I understand that you know nothing outside of your Montreal bubble but please if you’re going to insult people try to atleast know what you’re talking about


i wont argue with an idixt bud. im sure 99% of anyone with more than 1 braincell would agree with me. you do you
8 déc. 2021 à 15 h 42
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You're missing the fact that Koskinen faced more expected goals, more high danger shots, more total shots and that those shots were from closer range. And that he stops more pucks.

Koskinen > Allen


Like I said, Koskinen is barely ahead. Not even 1.0 shots per 60 difference isn't significant. If you honestly believe Koskinen is the more reliable choice, I'm obviously not going to convince you.
I feel this is more about devaluing Allen than arguing Koskinen is good however. The numbers are close enough that you should be decrying them both if anything.
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i wont argue with an idixt bud. im sure 99% of anyone with more than 1 braincell would agree with me. you do you


Quoting: Hockey247
i wont argue with an idixt bud. im sure 99% of anyone with more than 1 braincell would agree with me. you do you


Leave it to a habs fan to call others idiots when he’s blatantly denying stats and analytics
 
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