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Targets for a re-tool

Créé par: Barryblock
Date de création initiale: 6 déc. 2021
Publié: 6 déc. 2021
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Explications
Think any of the signings/trades fit? If so do u think a trade could be made?
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
Manson, Josh44 550 000 $
Benn, Jordie1850 000 $
Stecher, Troy11 250 000 $
Copp, Andrew55 250 000 $
Nichushkin, Valeri43 850 000 $
Aston-Reese, Zach21 850 000 $
Motte, Tyler41 850 000 $
Järnkrok, Calle21 850 000 $
Domi, Max24 000 000 $
Tierney, Chris12 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Carlo, Brandon
BOS
    2.
    VAN
    1. Hronek, Filip
    DET
      3.
      VAN
      1. Dumba, Matt
      MIN
        4.
        VAN
        1. Fabbro, Dante
        NSH
          5.
          VAN
          1. Myers, Philippe
          NSH
            6.
            VAN
            1. Konecny, Travis
            PHI
              7.
              VAN
              1. Marino, John
              PIT
                Rachats de contrats
                • Braden Holtby: 1 900 000 $
                • Jake Virtanen: 500 000 $
                Enfoui
                • Travis Hamonic: 1 875 000 $ (3 000 000 $)
                ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
                2022
                VAN
                WPG
                VAN
                VAN
                VAN
                VAN
                2023
                VAN
                VAN
                VAN
                VAN
                VAN
                VAN
                2024
                VAN
                VAN
                VAN
                VAN
                VAN
                VAN
                VAN
                TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
                1681 500 000 $59 075 000 $0 $0 $22 425 000 $
                Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
                Nichushkin, Valeri
                3 850 000 $
                AG, AD
                UFA
                Copp, Andrew
                5 250 000 $
                AG, C
                UFA
                PHI
                Konecny, Travis
                5 500 000 $
                AD, AG
                UFA - 3
                Domi, Max
                4 000 000 $
                AG, C
                UFA
                Tierney, Chris
                2 000 000 $
                C
                UFA
                Järnkrok, Calle
                1 850 000 $
                AG, C, AD
                UFA
                Aston-Reese, Zach
                1 850 000 $
                AG, AD
                UFA
                Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
                Manson, Josh
                4 550 000 $
                DD
                UFA
                BOS
                Carlo, Brandon
                4 100 000 $
                DD
                UFA - 5
                Benn, Jordie
                850 000 $
                DG/DD
                UFA
                DET
                Hronek, Filip
                4 400 000 $
                DD
                RFA - 2
                Stecher, Troy
                1 250 000 $
                DD
                UFA
                NSH
                Fabbro, Dante
                2 400 000 $
                DD
                RFA - 1
                NSH
                Myers, Philippe
                2 550 000 $
                DD
                RFA - 1
                PIT
                Marino, John
                4 400 000 $
                DD
                UFA - 5
                MIN
                Dumba, Matt
                6 000 000 $
                DD
                NTC
                UFA - 1
                Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
                VAN
                Burroughs, Kyle
                750 000 $
                DD
                UFA - 1
                VAN
                Demko, Thatcher
                5 000 000 $
                G
                UFA - 4
                VAN
                Höglander, Nils
                891 667 $
                AG, AD
                RFA - 1
                VAN
                Miller, J.T.
                5 250 000 $
                AG, C
                UFA - 1
                VAN
                Horvat, Bo
                5 500 000 $
                C
                UFA - 1
                VAN
                Motte, Tyler
                1 850 000 $
                AG, AD
                UFA
                VAN
                Garland, Conor
                4 950 000 $
                AG, AD
                UFA - 4
                VAN
                Pearson, Tanner
                3 250 000 $
                AG
                NTC
                UFA - 2
                VAN
                Dowling, Justin
                750 000 $
                C, AG
                UFA - 1
                VAN
                Pettersson, Elias
                7 350 000 $
                C
                RFA - 2
                VAN
                Podkolzin, Vasily
                925 000 $
                AD
                RFA - 2
                VAN
                Dickinson, Jason
                2 650 000 $
                C, AG
                UFA - 2
                VAN
                Hughes, Quinn
                7 850 000 $
                DG
                UFA - 5
                VAN
                Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
                7 260 000 $
                DG
                NMC
                UFA - 5
                VAN
                Myers, Tyler
                6 000 000 $
                DD
                NTC
                UFA - 2
                VAN
                Ferland, Micheal
                3 500 000 $
                AG, AD
                NTC
                UFA - 1
                VAN
                Schenn, Luke
                850 000 $
                DD
                UFA - 1
                VAN
                Keeper, Brady
                762 500 $
                DD
                UFA - 1
                VAN
                Poolman, Tucker
                2 500 000 $
                DD
                UFA - 3

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                6 déc. 2021 à 13 h 5
                #1
                Pens are the best
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                Youre not getting Marino. Its gonna take Hoglander at least
                6 déc. 2021 à 13 h 6
                #2
                Future GM
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                Boes and Myers for Carlo
                6 déc. 2021 à 13 h 7
                #3
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                Boeser for Konecny+a mid pick/prospect
                6 déc. 2021 à 13 h 11
                #4
                Secret Thrashers Fan
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                The big target if Detroit trades Hronek would have to be Horvat, and a guy like Myers or Poolman gets tacked on as a temporary replacement. Picks could go either way, but I feel like Yzerman would only settle for the best if he's trading a guy as integral to our defense as Hronek.
                6 déc. 2021 à 13 h 12
                #5
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                I doubt Hronek gets traded but what's your offer?
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                6 déc. 2021 à 13 h 15
                #6
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                Quoting: Roysboy72
                The big target if Detroit trades Hronek would have to be Horvat, and a guy like Myers or Poolman gets tacked on as a temporary replacement. Picks could go either way, but I feel like Yzerman would only settle for the best if he's trading a guy as integral to our defense as Hronek.


                UI wouldn't trade Hronek's jock strap for Meyers. I mean no disrespect to Vancouver fans I just really don't like him.
                6 déc. 2021 à 13 h 15
                #7
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                Dumba is pretty much untouchable. He was also just named Alternative captain and one of the reasons was because to reassure him about his future in Minnesota.
                6 déc. 2021 à 13 h 18
                #8
                Secret Thrashers Fan
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                Quoting: aedoran
                UI wouldn't trade Hronek's jock strap for Meyers. I mean no disrespect to Vancouver fans I just really don't like him.

                I guess we just have different opinions on him then, I wouldn't like Myers as a first pairing guy but he's a little over-hated for his contract. I think he can anchor a second pairing, and if he comes back with retention I definitely wouldn't be opposed to having him.
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                6 déc. 2021 à 13 h 25
                #9
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                Quoting: Roysboy72
                I guess we just have different opinions on him then, I wouldn't like Myers as a first pairing guy but he's a little over-hated for his contract. I think he can anchor a second pairing, and if he comes back with retention I definitely wouldn't be opposed to having him.


                You would really trade Hronek for Meyers? Why?
                6 déc. 2021 à 13 h 27
                #10
                Secret Thrashers Fan
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                Quoting: aedoran
                You would really trade Hronek for Meyers? Why?

                Not directly for Myers, only as part of a deal to get Horvat. Trading them one-for-one is counterintuitive for the Wings, Myers is a temporary replacement but Horvat is the target.
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                6 déc. 2021 à 13 h 30
                #11
                Hockey Fan13
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                Dumba won't be available this season but due to the Wild cap issues i could see him being available at the draft.
                What would you offer is the question, keeping in mind the only reason Dumba would be available is the Wild need cap space so a money in equal to money out deal really won't work.
                6 déc. 2021 à 13 h 33
                #12
                Hockey Fan13
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                Quoting: aedoran
                I doubt Hronek gets traded but what's your offer?


                What are the Wings looking for?
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                6 déc. 2021 à 13 h 33
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                Quoting: Roysboy72
                Not directly for Myers, only as part of a deal to get Horvat. Trading them one-for-one is counterintuitive for the Wings, Myers is a temporary replacement but Horvat is the target.


                Now I owe you an apology I didn't read that closely I thought Horvat or Meyers. So I'm sorry for being so aggressive about it.
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                6 déc. 2021 à 13 h 39
                #14
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                Quoting: OutCold13
                What are the Wings looking for?


                I don't think they are looking to trade him and I was curious how much he thinks Hronek is worth.
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                6 déc. 2021 à 13 h 40
                #15
                Secret Thrashers Fan
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                Quoting: aedoran
                Now I owe you an apology I didn't read that closely I thought Horvat or Meyers. So I'm sorry for being so aggressive about it.

                It's alright, no worries. I'd probably react the same if I thought somebody was proposing a Hronek-Myers swap too lol
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                6 déc. 2021 à 14 h 5
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                Quoting: Roysboy72
                It's alright, no worries. I'd probably react the same if I thought somebody was proposing a Hronek-Myers swap too lol


                Look at his possession metrics relative to team. While stats will never give you the whole picture but his are on par with Jonathon Ericsson. I think Motte in Detroit will be like Kyle Quincy's 2nd stint in Detroit.
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                6 déc. 2021 à 14 h 16
                #17
                Secret Thrashers Fan
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                Quoting: aedoran
                Look at his possession metrics relative to team. While stats will never give you the whole picture but his are on par with Jonathon Ericsson. I think Motte in Detroit will be like Kyle Quincy's 2nd stint in Detroit.

                It’s possible it turns sour, but he’s got a better track record and I wouldn’t be too disappointed if he ends up on the third pairing by the last year of the deal. Having the big Texan in the room until 2024 can’t end up that badly in my eyes. If he’s retained anywhere from 25-50% I’d bite the bullet for a better deal on Horvat.
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                6 déc. 2021 à 17 h 28
                #18
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                y'all ain't getting Carlo get real
                 
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