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realistic lines in 2 years

Créé par: Db1899
Date de création initiale: 6 déc. 2021
Publié: 6 déc. 2021
Équipe: 2023-24 Islanders de New York
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Barzal, Mathew810 000 000 $
Wahlstrom, Oliver65 250 000 $
Dobson, Noah54 500 000 $
Salo, Robin1900 000 $
Hutton, Grant1775 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Greiss, Thomas11 000 000 $
Merrill, Jon11 250 000 $
Benn, Jordie1775 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Dufour, William3925 000 $
Kemell, Joakim3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
NYI
  1. 2023 7e round pick (VAN)
ARI
  1. Bailey, Josh
  2. 2022 3e round pick (NYI)
Détails additionnels:
Samuel Bolduc
Kieffer Bellows

2022 offseason
Rachats de contrats
  • Rick DiPietro: 0 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
NYI
COL
NYI
NYI
2023
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
VAN
2024
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $76 172 500 $0 $32 500 $5 327 500 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
NYI
Nelson, Brock
6 000 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 2
NYI
Barzal, Mathew
10 000 000 $
C
RFA
NYI
Wahlstrom, Oliver
5 250 000 $
AD, C
RFA
NYI
Beauvillier, Anthony
4 150 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
NYI
Räty, Aatu
859 167 $
C
RFA - 1
Kemell, Joakim
925 000 $
NYI
Lee, Anders
7 000 000 $
AG, C
NTC
UFA - 3
NYI
Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
5 000 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 3
NYI
Holmström, Simon
863 333 $
AD
RFA - 1
NYI
Palmieri, Kyle
5 000 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 2
NYI
Cizikas, Casey
2 500 000 $
C
UFA - 4
Dufour, William
925 000 $
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
NYI
Pelech, Adam
5 750 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 6
NYI
Pulock, Ryan
6 150 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 7
NYI
Sorokin, Ilya
4 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
NYI
Salo, Robin
900 000 $
DG
RFA
NYI
Dobson, Noah
4 500 000 $
DD
RFA
Greiss, Thomas
1 000 000 $
G
UFA
Merrill, Jon
1 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
NYI
Hutton, Grant
775 000 $
DD
RFA
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
NYI
Johnston, Ross
1 100 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
NYI
Martin, Matt
1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Benn, Jordie
775 000 $
DG/DD
UFA

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Dobson, N.
Barzal, M.
Wahlstrom, O.
Räty, A.
Lee, A.
Avantage numérique 2
Salo, R.
Kemell, J.
Holmström, S.
Nelson, B.
Beauvillier, A.
Infériorité numérique 1
Cizikas, C.
Beauvillier, A.
Pelech, A.
Dobson, N.
Infériorité numérique 2
Pageau, J.
Holmström, S.
Merrill, J.
Pulock, R.

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6 déc. 2021 à 10 h 29
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i think the 4th line is gonna stick until someone retires, so id say in 4 years from l=now
6 déc. 2021 à 10 h 31
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Quoting: islandersfan14
i think the 4th line is gonna stick until someone retires, so id say in 4 years from l=now


That line is one of the worst lines in the league, why would they keep them together?
6 déc. 2021 à 10 h 33
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Quoting: Db1899
That line is one of the worst lines in the league, why would they keep them together?


The line works in the playoffs. Cizikas is the only regular for the reg season on that line. Clutterbuck kills penalties but Martin’s spot needs to be replaced with a guy who can skate.
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6 déc. 2021 à 10 h 35
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That line is one of the worst lines in the league, why would they keep them together?


playoffs
6 déc. 2021 à 10 h 36
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Quoting: Db1899
That line is one of the worst lines in the league, why would they keep them together?


and hurting people
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6 déc. 2021 à 10 h 36
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Quoting: Marcheesy
The line works in the playoffs. Cizikas is the only regular for the reg season on that line. Clutterbuck kills penalties but Martin’s spot needs to be replaced with a guy who can skate.


If Clutterbuck is re-signed it tells the rest of the lineup/fans that the organization doesn’t care about winning. They had one good series in the bubble but for the most part they are nothing special in the playoffs. Cizikas needs two new wingerd
6 déc. 2021 à 10 h 37
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Quoting: islandersfan14
playoffs


1. That line is a big reason why the isles won’t make the playoffs this season

2. For the most part they sucked in the playoffs.
6 déc. 2021 à 10 h 38
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1. That line is a big reason why the isles won’t make the playoffs this season

2. For the most part they sucked in the playoffs.


yeah they are more used for beating up on teams, especially the rangers but eventually we wont need that anymore
6 déc. 2021 à 10 h 41
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yeah they are more used for beating up on teams, especially the rangers but eventually we wont need that anymore


It’s the opposite now, teams beat up on the 4th line because they suck.
6 déc. 2021 à 10 h 51
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If the Islanders D-corps looks like that in two years, there’s a problem…
6 déc. 2021 à 10 h 58
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If the Islanders D-corps looks like that in two years, there’s a problem…


Why is that?
6 déc. 2021 à 11 h 30
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Why is that?

The Pelech and Pulock pairing isn't an issue, and Dobson should fit in nicely as the 2RD, but I'm not entirely sold on Salo. He may end up becoming good enough to play on that second pairing by this point in time, but as a 2017 draftee that has only played 4 NHL games (and not been particularly good in them) I'm not entirely sure he makes it to that level. He definitely could, don't get me wrong, but the clock is ticking. Merrill is a good pickup, he may be declining by the time this contract is signed but should be a decent stopgap. Grant Hutton might be able to play on a third pairing, but at this point in his career I can't see him being any better than a 7D. The main problem with the D-corps is not just that these are the players that make up 50% of it, but that there isn't anything better on the way. With the extra 5 million in cap space likely going to the expiring RFAs, there won't be any room to make an upgrade, meaning that the entire defense will have to be carried by only three players. Maybe by this time the Isles have picked another defenseman with a 1st rounder that could help, but it's entirely unknown whether or not that happens and whether or not that hypothetical defender lives up to his draft position. The entire situation just feels shaky to me.
6 déc. 2021 à 11 h 42
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Quoting: Roysboy72
The Pelech and Pulock pairing isn't an issue, and Dobson should fit in nicely as the 2RD, but I'm not entirely sold on Salo. He may end up becoming good enough to play on that second pairing by this point in time, but as a 2017 draftee that has only played 4 NHL games (and not been particularly good in them) I'm not entirely sure he makes it to that level. He definitely could, don't get me wrong, but the clock is ticking. Merrill is a good pickup, he may be declining by the time this contract is signed but should be a decent stopgap. Grant Hutton might be able to play on a third pairing, but at this point in his career I can't see him being any better than a 7D. The main problem with the D-corps is not just that these are the players that make up 50% of it, but that there isn't anything better on the way. With the extra 5 million in cap space likely going to the expiring RFAs, there won't be any room to make an upgrade, meaning that the entire defense will have to be carried by only three players. Maybe by this time the Isles have picked another defenseman with a 1st rounder that could help, but it's entirely unknown whether or not that happens and whether or not that hypothetical defender lives up to his draft position. The entire situation just feels shaky to me.


Salo would have been in NA last season if it weren’t for Covid. Instead he stayed in the SHL and was one of the best defenseman in the league. I believe he was top 3 in U23 scoring for D and he had very good underlying numbers , both offensively and defensively. He should have made the isles out camp, but Trotz is stubborn af. So far he’s arguably been the best two way D in the AHL this season. His floor is a 2nd pair D. He’s an elite skater with high IQ and can make plays in all 3 zones, the perfect partner for Dobson. Salo got thrown to the wolves in the NHL, played #1 minutes matching up against Auston Matthews and Sidney Crosby. It would be surprising for a rookie D to come in and win those matchups. Salo’s game is similar to Devon Toews, he has many translatable skills and a high floor.

Pelech and Pulock are #1 defenseman and project to provide that kind of value for the next 4-5 years. Dobson is also on a #1 trajectory. I don’t see how it’s an issue having 3 top pair caliber Dman, Robin Salo, and two defensive minded D on the 3rd pair . Not many teams can say they have 3 top pair caliber D.

I understand the concern on Hutton, but the early returns are good. His IQ is solid and he’s a fantastic skater for his size, seems good enough to be a #6 D and play with a proven shutdown D in Meriill.
 
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