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Boeser and Horvat Trade

Créé par: cooliny
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 3 déc. 2021
Publié: 5 déc. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Happen around TDL/Draft.

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RFAANSCAP HIT
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31 500 000 $
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CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Jiricek, David
3925 000 $
Nemec, Simon
3925 000 $
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VAN
  1. Pánik, Richard
  2. Wahlstrom, Oliver
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYI)
  4. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
Détails additionnels:
NYI does not really have a need to draft and desperately need a pure goal scorer, so they exchange their relatively high pick for Boeser, a 1RW that NYI needs, and Rathbone, a young puck moving LD. Boeser’s value is also at an all-time low so they make the big move. I’m not really sure what else needs to be added to make cap work.
NYI
  1. Boeser, Brock [Droits de RFA]
  2. Rathbone, Jack [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Canucks and Islanders 1st round picks will hopefully fall between 3-6, and they hope to be able to snag Jiricek and Nemec, who would totally transform this D-core and knock off Poolman and Myers. Also receives Wahlstrom, who would fit nicely in the future.
2.
VAN
  1. Vrána, Jakub
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (DET)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (WSH)
DET
  1. Horvat, Bo
  2. Myers, Tyler
Détails additionnels:
Not completely sure the value here but I've seen a Horvat/Myers swap for Hronek and 2 2nds and Detroit fans said they would do it.
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5 déc. 2021 à 17 h 46
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NYI aren't giving up a top 10 pick AND Whalstrom for Boeser.
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5 déc. 2021 à 17 h 46
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if the islanders' pick is top 5, i wouldn't trade it for any player they could reasonably acquire.
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5 déc. 2021 à 17 h 48
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At this point Vancouver will still be bad ... But DAMN I would like to see Detroit with Horvat in the roster
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5 déc. 2021 à 17 h 51
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Quoting: bagelbob
if the islanders' pick is top 5, i wouldn't trade it for any player they could reasonably acquire.


Top 5 protected?
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5 déc. 2021 à 17 h 52
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I wouldn’t even trade Wahlstrom straight up for Boeser
5 déc. 2021 à 18 h 5
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Quoting: Db1899
I wouldn’t even trade Wahlstrom straight up for Boeser


Boeser is proven, Wahlstrom is not. Canucks wouldn’t and shouldn’t do this either. Rathbone also looks like he’s going to be a solid top 4 LHD but that’s not what the NYI need right? Lol
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5 déc. 2021 à 18 h 11
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The hidden value in this trade is Rathbone. Isles fans don't seem to be aware he is very talented. Obviously the Canucks would have to do this to have a chance at a top 10 pick.
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5 déc. 2021 à 18 h 13
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Quoting: cooliny
Top 5 protected?


even if it's top 10 i'd be really hesitant to give it away. for a team with no prospects the idea of getting one of the top 10 guys in this draft is really really appealing. if it ended up being more around the top 15 range i'd consider it. the canucks would probably also have to take josh bailey or maybe varlamov to make the cap work tho and idk if that's possible on their side.
5 déc. 2021 à 18 h 16
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I think with myers in the Horvat trade for Hronek works as myers would at least have a roster spot. But in this case he is a 6M press box guy so it doesn't really make much sense for Detroit to add in myers unless the value is really good. Vrana and two seconds is probably the value for Horvat or close too. In this case myers is a straight cap dump and brings alot of negative value. I also wouldn't really want to trade Lindstrom either as he is a really steady defender and won't cost them much down the stretch.
5 déc. 2021 à 18 h 21
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Quoting: Juiceman
Boeser is proven, Wahlstrom is not. Canucks wouldn’t and shouldn’t do this either. Rathbone also looks like he’s going to be a solid top 4 LHD but that’s not what the NYI need right? Lol


Boeser hasn’t been the same since his injury. Wahlstrom has 3 more goals than Boeser this season despite playing 3rd line minutes. The early returns are great and he’s cost controlled, Boeser is going to want at least 7.5 mill and he might not live up to that contract.

I’d rather play Robin Salo at 2LD than Rathbone.
5 déc. 2021 à 18 h 34
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If this is a contenders pick, its a fair trade. Islanders would have to have some noteworthy protection on this deal for it to work for them.

We don't trade with the Isles unless Wahlstrom is in the package.
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5 déc. 2021 à 18 h 35
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Quoting: Lancebmx
I think with myers in the Horvat trade for Hronek works as myers would at least have a roster spot. But in this case he is a 6M press box guy so it doesn't really make much sense for Detroit to add in myers unless the value is really good. Vrana and two seconds is probably the value for Horvat or close too. In this case myers is a straight cap dump and brings alot of negative value. I also wouldn't really want to trade Lindstrom either as he is a really steady defender and won't cost them much down the stretch.


Myers is not that bad. He is a 4/5 D who is fine when he isn't overplayed. Yes he is overpaid, but he is absolutely 100% not a pressbox guy. He'd be getting 3-3.5m on today's market. I do agree that there's some negative TRADE value here due to that contract, but he himself is not a negative asset on the ice like a Vlasic or Zaitsev.
5 déc. 2021 à 18 h 50
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Myers is not that bad. He is a 4/5 D who is fine when he isn't overplayed. Yes he is overpaid, but he is absolutely 100% not a pressbox guy. He'd be getting 3-3.5m on today's market. I do agree that there's some negative TRADE value here due to that contract, but he himself is not a negative asset on the ice like a Vlasic or Zaitsev.


In Detroit he would be a press box guy. He might steal some games from Lindstrom but really with Seider, Hronek and Lindstrom in the fold, he sits in the press box. I've done a couple trades with Horvat and myers for Hronek +, that's where he actually has value. In this trade he has negative value for Detroit even though he may not have negative value as a whole. So in order for Detroit to take on his deal with the current roster they have now, they would have to be compensated substantially.
5 déc. 2021 à 19 h 45
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Buffalo got a late 1st and a G prospect for similar level player Sam Reinhart.

That is what you’ll get for Boeser.
5 déc. 2021 à 20 h 22
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I don't think the distance between Horvat and Vrána is 2 2nd round picks and a cap dump.
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