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Créé par: MarcBergevin69
Équipe: 2021-22 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 5 déc. 2021
Publié: 5 déc. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Patrick Roy part 2.
Transactions
COL
  1. Price, Carey (5 250 000 $ retained)
MTL
  1. Kuemper, Darcy
  2. MacDermid, Kurtis
  3. Newhook, Alex
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (COL)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $80 960 630 $1 741 463 $2 500 000 $539 370 $
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
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6 300 000 $6 300 000 $
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9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
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4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
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UFA - 1
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1 075 000 $1 075 000 $
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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750 000 $750 000 $
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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725 000 $725 000 $
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 5
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
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RFA - 2
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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UFA - 6
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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750 000 $750 000 $
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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725 000 $725 000 $
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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5 déc. 2021 à 14 h 21
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avs pass. value isnt there.
5 déc. 2021 à 14 h 23
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I feel like Newhook alone gets it done probably
5 déc. 2021 à 14 h 25
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Ah yea, a goalie who is 34 and hasn't played thisnyear, that's the missing piece
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5 déc. 2021 à 14 h 32
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Confirmed, MTL fans are delusional. Why in the world would COL do that and how does a 34 yr old goalie who hasn’t played this year and has never won a cup all the sudden be the answer?
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5 déc. 2021 à 14 h 32
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Ah yea, a goalie who is 34 and hasn't played thisnyear, that's the missing piece


You mean the guy that carried the Habs to a cup final last year? Goaltending is the Achilles heel of this Avs team and price is one of the best in the world. But guys on this sub seem to think he’s terrible
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5 déc. 2021 à 14 h 34
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I feel like Newhook alone gets it done probably

You’re high. Price hasn’t played this year, is 34 and Newhook is a stud on an elc. Hard pass I mean really Seattle passes on him for free and COL is going to send an elite prospect a starting goalie a pick and a throw in player for him. That’s laughable.
5 déc. 2021 à 14 h 35
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Quoting: Khalenix
I feel like Newhook alone gets it done probably


Newhook is an overpayment. Price is washed and with that awful contract too, nobody want him lol
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5 déc. 2021 à 14 h 36
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You mean the guy that carried the Habs to a cup final last year? Goaltending is the Achilles heel of this Avs team and price is one of the best in the world. But guys on this sub seem to think he’s terrible


price was one of the best in the world. hasn't been for years tho. now hes got off ice issues to go with a bad contract, aging, and regression.
5 déc. 2021 à 14 h 37
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You mean the guy that carried the Habs to a cup final last year? Goaltending is the Achilles heel of this Avs team and price is one of the best in the world. But guys on this sub seem to think he’s terrible

How has goal tending been their achilles? Was it when a 3rd goalie was playing after the top 2 got hurt and the Avs were starting 3 AHL defenseman against the Stars, oh wait it was when Kadri got suspended, and the top line disappeared for 2 games against VGK. Revisionist much?
5 déc. 2021 à 14 h 46
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How has goal tending been their achilles? Was it when a 3rd goalie was playing after the top 2 got hurt and the Avs were starting 3 AHL defenseman against the Stars, oh wait it was when Kadri got suspended, and the top line disappeared for 2 games against VGK. Revisionist much?


Even if Grubaur and Francoiuz were healthy it’s wouldn’t have made a difference both are not good goalies and Kuemper has struggled this year aswell they won’t make it past round 2 unless they get an elite goalie
5 déc. 2021 à 14 h 50
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Even if Grubaur and Francoiuz were healthy it’s wouldn’t have made a difference both are not good goalies and Kuemper has struggled this year aswell they won’t make it past round 2 unless they get an elite goalie

So the answer is a 34yr old in the player assist program, that Seattle passed on for free? Gotcha.
5 déc. 2021 à 14 h 55
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Take our bad contract, please!
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5 déc. 2021 à 15 h 8
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Just no...montreal fans please stop with these awful price trades, Avs do not want Price or his contract. And in no way is he worth that type of trade.
Enough
5 déc. 2021 à 15 h 11
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Quoting: Khalenix
I feel like Newhook alone gets it done probably


newhook is off limits and In no way does he have to be put in any trade to get price...he is not worth anything close to that
5 déc. 2021 à 15 h 20
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Quoting: jet11567
You mean the guy that carried the Habs to a cup final last year? Goaltending is the Achilles heel of this Avs team and price is one of the best in the world. But guys on this sub seem to think he’s terrible


you mean the same goalie who wouldnt have made the playoffs if it didnt have the locked divisional format last year.
5 déc. 2021 à 15 h 30
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Quoting: coga16
you mean the same goalie who wouldnt have made the playoffs if it didnt have the locked divisional format last year.


how is this an argument lol. just admitted that price plays on a horrendous team and brought them all the way.
5 déc. 2021 à 15 h 35
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how is this an argument lol. just admitted that price plays on a horrendous team and brought them all the way.


He was awful in the regular season, hurting teams ability to even make the playoffs.

Both years locked format and the bubble montreal wouldnt have made the playoffs. So all this he is worth so much now bc he had a few good playoff games despite being brutal in the series they lost. Hes not some sort of cup missing piece. Hes a goalie that got hot for a few weeks, then came down crashing to earth to his below average ways
5 déc. 2021 à 15 h 40
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Quoting: coga16
He was awful in the regular season, hurting teams ability to even make the playoffs.

Both years locked format and the bubble montreal wouldnt have made the playoffs. So all this he is worth so much now bc he had a few good playoff games despite being brutal in the series they lost. Hes not some sort of cup missing piece. Hes a goalie that got hot for a few weeks, then came down crashing to earth to his below average ways


Let's say cap hit / contract situation didn't exist for a year. Name me another goalie other than Vasy who you would rather have on your team for a playoffs run, for one season.
5 déc. 2021 à 15 h 44
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Let's say cap hit / contract situation didn't exist for a year. Name me another goalie other than Vasy who you would rather have on your team for a playoffs run, for one season.


Probably over a dozen other goalies I would rather have over a 34 year old Carey Price who is declining rapidly.
Seriously when 31 other fan bases are telling Montreal fans the same thing, its time to accept Price for who he is today, and not put him on a pedestal bc of his past accomplishments over 5 years ago
5 déc. 2021 à 16 h 24
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Quoting: MarcBergevin69
Let's say cap hit / contract situation didn't exist for a year. Name me another goalie other than Vasy who you would rather have on your team for a playoffs run, for one season.


rask, markstrom, hellebuyck, bishop, varlamov, sorokin, bobrovsky, gibson want me to keep going? price in his last 5 years of hockey has been very inconsistent not to mention his injury issues, you have to do good in the regular season to make playoffs and quite frankly price hasnt been good in regular season since 2016-17 this is a bad deal for av's. his amazing playoff run wouldn't have happened if the divisions were normal canadians record had them like 5th in the atlantic and even though that doesn't sound awful the 4 teams ahead of them were still all on pace to have 14+ more wins then canadians. canadians were on pace for 35 wins while B's, leafs, tampa and florida all were on pace for 50 so in reality montreals whole run was just luck because we had to switch divisions. price is good but you can't have a goalie who only wants to try for 2 months out of the year. i believe av's best option is too look at acquiring varlamov again. varlamov was arguably the most important piece to Isle's run last season
5 déc. 2021 à 16 h 43
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Probably over a dozen other goalies I would rather have over a 34 year old Carey Price who is declining rapidly.
Seriously when 31 other fan bases are telling Montreal fans the same thing, its time to accept Price for who he is today, and not put him on a pedestal bc of his past accomplishments over 5 years ago


declining rapidly and MVP to the cup finals teams don't belong in the same sentence my friend.
5 déc. 2021 à 16 h 44
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rask, markstrom, hellebuyck, bishop, varlamov, sorokin, bobrovsky, gibson want me to keep going? price in his last 5 years of hockey has been very inconsistent not to mention his injury issues, you have to do good in the regular season to make playoffs and quite frankly price hasnt been good in regular season since 2016-17 this is a bad deal for av's. his amazing playoff run wouldn't have happened if the divisions were normal canadians record had them like 5th in the atlantic and even though that doesn't sound awful the 4 teams ahead of them were still all on pace to have 14+ more wins then canadians. canadians were on pace for 35 wins while B's, leafs, tampa and florida all were on pace for 50 so in reality montreals whole run was just luck because we had to switch divisions. price is good but you can't have a goalie who only wants to try for 2 months out of the year. i believe av's best option is too look at acquiring varlamov again. varlamov was arguably the most important piece to Isle's run last season


you can't be serious lol.
5 déc. 2021 à 16 h 55
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you can't be serious lol.


i am all of those goalies have had way more playoff and regular season success then price in the last 5 years exception to gibson but look at his team, if gibson was on a playoff contender the last few years he probably would be a top 6 goalie in the league. price is the most overrated goalie in the league one playoff run doesn't change the fact that he has been average at best the last few years previous too. 22 games of consistency out of 200+ games doesn't make you some top asset, varlamov has been consistent the last 3 seaons the only reason he isn't looking as hot this year is well look at the islanders this year they can't score and they have played 5+ games with their ahl squad
5 déc. 2021 à 17 h 16
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i am all of those goalies have had way more playoff and regular season success then price in the last 5 years exception to gibson but look at his team, if gibson was on a playoff contender the last few years he probably would be a top 6 goalie in the league. price is the most overrated goalie in the league one playoff run doesn't change the fact that he has been average at best the last few years previous too. 22 games of consistency out of 200+ games doesn't make you some top asset, varlamov has been consistent the last 3 seaons the only reason he isn't looking as hot this year is well look at the islanders this year they can't score and they have played 5+ games with their ahl squad



you really just said " all those goalies have had way more playoff success than Carey Price in the last 5 years " . You sure about that my friend?
6 déc. 2021 à 1 h 32
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Quoting: MarcBergevin69
Let's say cap hit / contract situation didn't exist for a year. Name me another goalie other than Vasy who you would rather have on your team for a playoffs run, for one season.


Campbell, Demko, Varlamov, Sorokin, Sheisty, Gibson, Merzlekins, Blackwood, Helleybuck, Lehner, fleury, Binnington even hart.
 
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