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Manson extended 4x 525

Créé par: reelkena
Publié: 1 déc. 2021 à 16 h 19
Plafond salarial: 81 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 149/200 (75%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

Logo de Ducks d'AnaheimDucks d'Anaheim

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Manson, JoshDucks d'AnaheimLNH-3 054 500 $111---0000--
Henrique, AdamDucks d'AnaheimLNH-4 339 625 $111---0000--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Myers, TylerCanucks de VancouverLNH-4 470 000 $111---0000--
Boeser, BrockCanucks de VancouverLNH-4 376 875 $111---0000--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial11 826 663 $2244623511
Variation-1 452 750 $000000
Final10 373 913 $ (↓)2244623511000

Logo de Canucks de VancouverCanucks de Vancouver

La transaction a eu lieu alors que la LTIR est utilisée
Allègement provenant de la liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR): 6 112 500 $
Portion de la LTIR utilisée avant la transaction: 3 637 500 $
DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Myers, TylerCanucks de VancouverLNH-6 000 000 $111---0000--
Boeser, BrockCanucks de VancouverLNH-5 875 000 $111---0000--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Manson, JoshDucks d'AnaheimLNH-4 100 000 $111---0000--
Henrique, AdamDucks d'AnaheimLNH-5 825 000 $111---0000--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial2 475 000 $2246663511
Variation1 950 000 $000000
Final4 425 000 $ (↑)2246663511000
1 déc. 2021 à 16 h 20
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I hate this trade btw but we have to pay to delete Myers from our team.
1 déc. 2021 à 16 h 24
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Quoting: reelkena
I hate this trade btw but we have to pay to delete Myers from our team.


At least you're not giving up picks to do it......
1 déc. 2021 à 16 h 40
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I think I like this a lot
1 déc. 2021 à 17 h 17
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This is absolutely atrocious for Vancouver. Josh Manson isn't as good as he use to be and I'm surprised at how many people haven't pick upon that, he won't cost more than a 2nd or 3rd rounder at the trade deadline as a rental, plus Myers is arguably more valuable than Henrique

If I had to predict what I think Manson will get on the open Market, I'd say he scores an AAV in the $2.5-3.75 million dollar range on a 2-4 year deal. Definitely not getting $4+ million AAV though
1 déc. 2021 à 17 h 20
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
This is absolutely atrocious for Vancouver. Josh Manson isn't as good as he use to be and I'm surprised at how many people haven't pick upon that, he won't cost more than a 2nd or 3rd rounder at the trade deadline as a rental, plus Myers is arguably more valuable than Henrique

If I had to predict what I think Manson will get on the open Market, I'd say he scores an AAV in the $2.5-3.75 million dollar range on a 2-4 year deal. Definitely not getting $4+ million AAV though


of all the people on this site that nobody asked...
1 déc. 2021 à 17 h 25
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Quoting: reelkena
of all the people on this site that nobody asked...


Did anybody ASK you to be some kind of police force for this site?
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1 déc. 2021 à 20 h 53
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Did anybody ASK you to be some kind of police force for this site?


Your opinion is not wanted here. Find 5 more trades to post and go away.
1 déc. 2021 à 21 h 34
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
This is absolutely atrocious for Vancouver. Josh Manson isn't as good as he use to be and I'm surprised at how many people haven't pick upon that, he won't cost more than a 2nd or 3rd rounder at the trade deadline as a rental, plus Myers is arguably more valuable than Henrique

If I had to predict what I think Manson will get on the open Market, I'd say he scores an AAV in the $2.5-3.75 million dollar range on a 2-4 year deal. Definitely not getting $4+ million AAV though


You think one of the worst players in the league making 6M is more valuable than a quality NHLer over paid by 1-1.5M? There’s no argument to be had. There isn’t a player in the league that Myers is more valuable than.
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1 déc. 2021 à 22 h 29
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You think one of the worst players in the league making 6M is more valuable than a quality NHLer over paid by 1-1.5M? There’s no argument to be had. There isn’t a player in the league that Myers is more valuable than.


Hence the bribe of Boeser for Henrique and a rental. (that we extend)
1 déc. 2021 à 22 h 39
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Quoting: reelkena
Hence the bribe of Boeser for Henrique and a rental. (that we extend)


I know. I was replying to him starting that Myers was more valuable than Henrique.
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1 déc. 2021 à 22 h 52
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I know. I was replying to him starting that Myers was more valuable than Henrique.


My apologies, what I meant to say is that while I think a Myers for Henrique swap could be entertained, I'd be lying if I said I would take it in a heartbeat. Myers is a far better player than he's given credit for, he's a decent skater and is good at moving the puck, sure, he has his defensive warts, but he's not a complete liability like players such as Shayne Gostisbehere, Tyson Barrie, and Toney DeAngelo

I would agree that like Henrique, Myers provides about 60-70% of his contract's value
1 déc. 2021 à 22 h 55
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Quoting: reelkena
Your opinion is not wanted here. Find 5 more trades to post and go away.


We can only post maximum 5 trade proposals in a 24 hour span. Do you see anyone else here accusing me of trolling?
2 déc. 2021 à 13 h 59
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
We can only post maximum 5 trade proposals in a 24 hour span. Do you see anyone else here accusing me of trolling?


I'm not accusing you of trolling. I think you think it's reasonable to spam trades every day.

I'm accusing you of being obnoxious and acting like you know tons about trades when they all either have little impact or make no sense, then you accuse me of the same.

Also Myers is 5% of Henrique not more than. His contract is 2 mil too much for a middle pair minute eater with downside decision making and PIMs.
2 déc. 2021 à 15 h 13
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Quoting: reelkena
I'm not accusing you of trolling. I think you think it's reasonable to spam trades every day.

I'm accusing you of being obnoxious and acting like you know tons about trades when they all either have little impact or make no sense, then you accuse me of the same.

Also Myers is 5% of Henrique not more than. His contract is 2 mil too much for a middle pair minute eater with downside decision making and PIMs.


I'm sure I've said this before, but I don't feel like I'm spamming. When I express my takes when it comes to things like trade value, I don't put down other users for having different takes. In this thread for example, you tried to kick me out without even bothering to look at what kind of input I was looking to offer here. If we still disagree on the value of the assets in question here, that's totally cool with me
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
I'm sure I've said this before, but I don't feel like I'm spamming. When I express my takes when it comes to things like trade value, I don't put down other users for having different takes. In this thread for example, you tried to kick me out without even bothering to look at what kind of input I was looking to offer here. If we still disagree on the value of the assets in question here, that's totally cool with me


The only way we have to evaluate other peoples comments on here is like rate.

Your 16% like rate says a lot. It means most people don't agree when they see your comments.

At some point the value of somebody who only comes into my comments to say no actually this player is worth half that number (based on no context) with a low like rate clearly isn't worth my time.

Especially when I have never seen something you said that I agree with and your response is usually to say a ton of spread out trade opinions and then immediately declare agree to disagree like you have the final say and anything else is just looking for a fight.

Well you came to this thread to argue Manson and Myers' value so I guess agree to disagree.
2 déc. 2021 à 16 h 23
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Quoting: reelkena
The only way we have to evaluate other peoples comments on here is like rate.

Your 16% like rate says a lot. It means most people don't agree when they see your comments.

At some point the value of somebody who only comes into my comments to say no actually this player is worth half that number (based on no context) with a low like rate clearly isn't worth my time.

Especially when I have never seen something you said that I agree with and your response is usually to say a ton of spread out trade opinions and then immediately declare agree to disagree like you have the final say and anything else is just looking for a fight.

Well you came to this thread to argue Manson and Myers' value so I guess agree to disagree.


Where is there any sort of "rate" statistic? One can only expect so many other people to agree with their personal takes
2 déc. 2021 à 20 h 9
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Where is there any sort of "rate" statistic? One can only expect so many other people to agree with their personal takes


Alright, nvm
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