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Kane Squared

Créé par: jojoyutz
Équipe: 2021-22 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 1 déc. 2021
Publié: 1 déc. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Just a thought
Transactions
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NJD
  1. Kane, Evander (3 500 000 $ retained)
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NJD
  1. Kane, Patrick (2 500 000 $ retained)
CHI
  1. Bahl, Kevin
  2. Tatar, Tomas
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $65 072 598 $0 $4 050 000 $16 427 402 $

Formation

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AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
C
UFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
AD, C
RFA - 3
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
C
UFA - 6
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 2
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800 000 $800 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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975 000 $975 000 $
C
RFA - 2
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825 000 $825 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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125 000 $125 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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3 166 667 $3 166 667 $
DG
UFA - 2
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 7
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2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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750 000 $750 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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725 000 $725 000 $
AG, DG
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
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912 500 $912 500 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
AD
RFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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1 déc. 2021 à 15 h 48
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What are the point of trading P Kane for peanuts today?
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1 déc. 2021 à 15 h 49
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What are the point of trading P Kane for peanuts today?


Last time i checked a first round pick was not a "peanut"
1 déc. 2021 à 15 h 49
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I'll pass on Evander, give me Patrick all day
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1 déc. 2021 à 15 h 51
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Starting pieces for PKane would be Mercer and the 2022 1st. Then we can start to negotiate other pieces afterward
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1 déc. 2021 à 15 h 52
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there's a defenseman named Kane Lafranchise, but he retired in 2018. you could have had Kane Cubed (Kane Kubed?)
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1 déc. 2021 à 15 h 54
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Starting pieces for PKane would be Mercer and the 2022 1st. Then we can start to negotiate other pieces afterward


Thats laughable... Mercer? He is untouchable, and age is a proven factor in trades since we just saw the last Vezna trophy winner traded for a 6th round pick. Patrick is pretty old, never would get Mercer for him.
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Last time i checked a first round pick was not a "peanut"

For P Kane with a retainer ? That's peanut
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1 déc. 2021 à 15 h 57
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Thats laughable... Mercer? He is untouchable, and age is a proven factor in trades since we just saw the last Vezna trophy winner traded for a 6th round pick. Patrick is pretty old, never would get Mercer for him.


This post is laughable. 3x Cup Winner, Hart Winner, Conn Smythe Winner and you think (1) 1st and two pieces of nothing work???

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/291476
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Thats laughable... Mercer? He is untouchable, and age is a proven factor in trades since we just saw the last Vezna trophy winner traded for a 6th round pick. Patrick is pretty old, never would get Mercer for him.



You are WAY undervaluing Kane, the Hawks would never accept this. Doesn't matter, Kane would likely never waive for NJ anyway
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1 déc. 2021 à 15 h 58
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Pass on Evander Kane

Patrick Kane is going to cost a lot more. But that would be awesome.
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You are WAY undervaluing Kane, the Hawks would never accept this. Doesn't matter, Kane would likely never waive for NJ anyway


If NJ was in a playoff spot at deadline, he would prob waive to play with Hughes
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Thats laughable... Mercer? He is untouchable, and age is a proven factor in trades since we just saw the last Vezna trophy winner traded for a 6th round pick. Patrick is pretty old, never would get Mercer for him.


While the Devils don't pay that price (Mercer+), other teams would in a heartbeat.
One of the few guys team can easily command any team's best prospect + best pick.
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If NJ was in a playoff spot at deadline, he would prob waive to play with his Hughes


Betting he probably wouldn't actually and coming from someone who's followed his entire career since the juniors and all the interviews. Highly unlikely he picks up his family and moves anywhere with the exception of maybe Buffalo or the Rangers. Do you really think Hughes matters to Kane?
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Kane would likely never waive for NJ anyway


I have never seen a player decline a trade to NJ and have never seen NJ on anyone's "no trade" list.
Its a pretty player-friendly place to play (other than us stinking the last few years).
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Betting he probably wouldn't actually and coming from someone who's followed his entire career since the juniors and all the interviews. Highly unlikely he picks up his family and moves anywhere with the exception of maybe Buffalo or the Rangers. Do you really think Hughes matters to Kane?


This is a typical homer ACGM team. Half a season of a worse player in Taylor Hall got Bahl and Mercer. Now NJ wants an even better player for (2) years, but won't off something that's even close to what Hall got. Makes no sense at all.

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/291476
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Betting he probably wouldn't actually and coming from someone who's followed his entire career since the juniors and all the interviews. Highly unlikely he picks up his family and moves anywhere with the exception of maybe Buffalo or the Rangers. Do you really think Hughes matters to Kane?


Yea, Hughes does actually matter to Kane. Kane has countless times talked about Hughes and how he sees him as the younger version of himself. Also, hes on a hockey team that is 7-12-2 that has no cap space. Im sure hes having a lot of fun with that and would do anything to stay!
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Betting he probably wouldn't actually and coming from someone who's followed his entire career since the juniors and all the interviews. Highly unlikely he picks up his family and moves anywhere with the exception of maybe Buffalo or the Rangers. Do you really think Hughes matters to Kane?


Those two do have a relationship...so that is not out of left field.
But don't think they are that tight where one moves to the other.

Probably a bigger question for Kane would be, does he stick around if Chicago goes into rebuild.
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1 déc. 2021 à 16 h 19
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This is a typical homer ACGM team. Half a season of a worse player in Taylor Hall got Bahl and Mercer. Now NJ wants an even better player for (2) years, but won't off something that's even close to what Hall got. Makes no sense at all.

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/291476


To be fair, the Hall trade happened 10 months before we drafted Mercer and 20 months before he arrived in NHL.

So, half-season of Hall got Bahl, Schnarr, Merkley and 1st. (Merkley is now gone and Schnarr is tearing up AHL).

I think Mercer + 1st would be right price to ask. Just devils won't pay that based on their timeline. Right postage, wrong zip code.
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I have never seen a player decline a trade to NJ and have never seen NJ on anyone's "no trade" list.
Its a pretty player-friendly place to play (other than us stinking the last few years).


Man after reading all this thread… Patrick Kane does not uproot his family for a mediocre shot a cup run. Why? Because he’s a proven GOAT level player. He grew up a rags fan so maybe rags get Kane.Plus Panarin is more of draw for Kane than Hughes. Kane is not going anywhere unless some franchise sacrifices some amazing futures to get him. AKA Kane will not waive, and even if he did no team in their right mind would dump their future for just 1.5 years of Kane.
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Man after reading all this thread… Patrick Kane does not uproot his family for a mediocre shot a cup run. Why? Because he’s a proven GOAT level player. He grew up a rags fan so maybe rags get Kane.Plus Panarin is more of draw for Kane than Hughes. Kane is not going anywhere unless some franchise sacrifices some amazing futures to get him. AKA Kane will not waive, and even if he did no team in their right mind would dump their future for just 1.5 years of Kane.


I never said that he would move here. I said, generally, NJ isn't disliked as a destination for players.

NJ isn't paying "all-in-win-now" prices on any player. Other teams will. We have the youngest team in NHL, one of the best prospect pipelines, a great future. But that future will probably come after Kane signs his next contract (not in next 1.5 years).

And yes, he is the GOAT
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To be fair, the Hall trade happened 10 months before we drafted Mercer and 20 months before he arrived in NHL.

So, half-season of Hall got Bahl, Schnarr, Merkley and 1st. (Merkley is now gone and Schnarr is tearing up AHL).

I think Mercer + 1st would be right price to ask. Just devils won't pay that based on their timeline. Right postage, wrong zip code.


very fair
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Yea, Hughes does actually matter to Kane. Kane has countless times talked about Hughes and how he sees him as the younger version of himself. Also, hes on a hockey team that is 7-12-2 that has no cap space. Im sure hes having a lot of fun with that and would do anything to stay!


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Those two do have a relationship...so that is not out of left field.
But don't think they are that tight where one moves to the other.

Probably a bigger question for Kane would be, does he stick around if Chicago goes into rebuild.


You probably don't follow Kane much off the ice, but Kane has spoken many times how Chicago is where he and his family want to remain for many years. He's also talked about wanting to work with the Blackhawks after his playing career. He also is very involved with the legacy players and events which is weird for a current player. He stays year-round in Chicago, trains here, has mentioned all his friends are here now. He's accomplished everything a player can accomplish and that's all tied to Chicago. I don't see him leaving as such unless it's to play in a big city such as the New York Rangers where one of his good friends plays Panarin or the remote possibility to return to Buffalo to fullfill a childhood dream. For all intents and purposes though, he is very committed to the Chicago.

This is also coming from someone who's not a diehard Chicago (the city) fan who moved away 10 years ago for greener pastures.
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You probably don't follow Kane much off the ice, but Kane has spoken many times how Chicago is where he and his family want to remain for many years. He's also talked about wanting to work with the Blackhawks after his playing career. He also is very involved with the legacy players and events which is weird for a current player. He stays year-round in Chicago, trains here, has mentioned all his friends are here now. He's accomplished everything a player can accomplish and that's all tied to Chicago. I don't see him leaving as such unless it's to play in a big city such as the New York Rangers where one of his good friends plays Panarin or the remote possibility to return to Buffalo to fullfill a childhood dream. For all intents and purposes though, he is very committed to the Chicago.

This is also coming from someone who's not a diehard Chicago (the city) fan who moved away 10 years ago for greener pastures.


I follow Kane a lot, or at least as much as a non-Blackhawks could. It’s hard not to …as a US hockey fan, he is like our Gretzky. And I don’t doubt anything you are saying.

He probably ends his career with Chicago. I used to say the same about both Brodeur and Zajac. Both finished their careers elsewhere. Both now work for Devils.
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