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how we feeling about the hughes deal

Créé par: NoWah49
Date de création initiale: 30 nov. 2021
Publié: 30 nov. 2021
Équipe: 2022-23 Devils du New Jersey
Explications
i love their pay for potential approach with Hughes and Hischier. Makes them not susceptible to a Toronto situation.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Bratt, Jesper66 000 000 $
Zacha, Pavel23 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
McNabb, Brayden33 000 000 $
Rachats de contrats
  • Cory Schneider: 2 000 000 $
Frais appliqués
  • Ilya Kovalchuk: 250 000 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
EDM
NYI
CBJ
NJD
NJD
2023
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
2024
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
NJD
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2082 500 000 $70 090 833 $0 $1 650 000 $12 409 167 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
NJD
Tatar, Tomas
4 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
NJD
Hughes, Jack
8 000 000 $
C
UFA - 8
NJD
Sharangovich, Yegor
2 000 000 $
AD, AG, C
RFA - 1
NJD
Bratt, Jesper
6 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA
NJD
Hischier, Nico
7 250 000 $
C
UFA - 5
NJD
Johnsson, Andreas
3 400 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
NJD
Zacha, Pavel
3 000 000 $
AG, C
RFA
NJD
Mercer, Dawson
894 167 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
NJD
Holtz, Alexander
925 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 2
NJD
Kuokkanen, Janne
1 825 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
NJD
Mcleod, Michael
975 000 $
C
RFA - 1
NJD
Bastian, Nathan
825 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
NJD
Graves, Ryan
3 166 667 $
DG
UFA - 1
NJD
Hamilton, Dougie
9 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 6
NJD
Blackwood, Mackenzie
2 800 000 $
G
RFA - 1
McNabb, Brayden
3 000 000 $
DG
UFA
NJD
Severson, Damon
4 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 1
NJD
Bernier, Jonathan
4 125 000 $
G
UFA - 1
NJD
Siegenthaler, Jonas
1 125 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
NJD
Smith, Ty
863 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1

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30 nov. 2021 à 21 h 24
#1
The Chief of Kief
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maybe itll be good down the road but for now sheesh it seems like alot
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30 nov. 2021 à 21 h 26
#2
Jack Hughes is Elite
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Im good with it. Devils have a ton of money to give to their young players to earn their contracts
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30 nov. 2021 à 21 h 26
#3
wpg
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i think its a win

betting on potential but low on the risk side and max term
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30 nov. 2021 à 21 h 29
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i like the contract, but i feel like it’s important to note that the reason they’re not susceptible to a toronto situation because toronto’s players produced like crazy on their ELCs and hughes and hischier have not.
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30 nov. 2021 à 21 h 30
#5
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Meh, I was hoping for a Point/ Barzal -like 3 year bridge deal.
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30 nov. 2021 à 21 h 33
#6
The Chief of Kief
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Quoting: FireShero
Meh, I was hoping for a Point/ Barzal -like 3 year bridge deal.


tbf 8x8 is alot better than 3x7 but i ust feel like 8 is alot to give a guy who really hasnt done anything
30 nov. 2021 à 22 h 18
#7
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Definitely not a win by any stretch right now, we'll see if he can live up to it -- but I think they overpaid now and long-term. Should've signed something like $6m x 6 or $4.5m x 3 short term deal. And when those deals are up, is he an $8m guy then? If he is, would he really sign for much more than that at that point anyway? I don't see how he's earned more than Hischier at this point, let alone $8m.
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30 nov. 2021 à 23 h 11
#8
Opie
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My first (and only thought) ... I hope he proves durable...

That really has to be the primary concern now. He's going to continue to be a target & with that frame, you have to wonder how many 70 plus game seasons you get out of him.
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1 déc. 2021 à 3 h 35
#9
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NoWah49
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Quoting: bagelbob
i like the contract, but i feel like it’s important to note that the reason they’re not susceptible to a toronto situation because toronto’s players produced like crazy on their ELCs and hughes and hischier have not.


fair, fair. they also waited until Marner was done with his ELC after a 94 point year. Hughes and Hischier (I believe) were extended a year before
1 déc. 2021 à 8 h 33
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Modifié 1 déc. 2021 à 8 h 41
Quoting: NoWah49
fair, fair. they also waited until Marner was done with his ELC after a 94 point year. Hughes and Hischier (I believe) were extended a year before


yeah, but both matthews and marner scored 60 in their rookie years and matthews was a PPG player his second season and marner scored 69 points. they would have been big contracts regardless. i’m not even a toronto fan but i just feel like sometimes we’re a bit too hard on the contracts lol.
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1 déc. 2021 à 9 h 27
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Love it. Absolutely love it.

NJD had already gone all in on Hughes and Hischier a while ago. Especially on Hughes. And almost instantly as well. In the year they selected Hughes, they drafted four childhood friends/teammates of Jack’s (Vukojevic, Moynihan, Clarke, McCarthy, etc). They invited others to camp. And most recently just drafted his little brother (a worthwhile pick in his own right). They have not been shy about this being Jack’s team.

Shero had been building a system around speed and puck possession for years and Hughes’ arrival cemented that strategy into place.

So if we paid him $6m or $8m, it doesn’t really matter as the whole thing is built around him anyway. If Jack thrives, the team will be successful. If he fails, the team will likely be unsuccessful.

So the question shouldn’t be whether or not we should have paid him $4m or $6m or $8m. The more fitting question is: Should NJD have hitched their boat to Jack’s? If yes, than of course, pay him $8m x 8.
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