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Problem Solving If Melnyk will get off his wallet

Créé par: wizardofozzyip
Publié: 30 nov. 2021 à 15 h 53
Plafond salarial: 81 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 150/200 (75%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

Logo de Flames de CalgaryFlames de Calgary

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Monahan, SeanFlames de CalgaryLNH-4 781 250 $111---0000--
Välimäki, JuusoExempté du ballottageFlames de CalgaryLNH-1 162 500 $111---0000--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Fiala, KevinWild du MinnesotaLNH50%1 912 500 $111---0000--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial304 451 $2347723610
Variation4 031 250 $-1-1-1000
Final4 335 701 $ (↑)22 (↓)46 (↓)71 (↓)3610000

Logo de Wild du MinnesotaWild du Minnesota

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Fiala, KevinWild du MinnesotaLNH50%1 912 500 $111---0000--
Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (Logo de Wild du MinnesotaMIN)---010------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Välimäki, JuusoExempté du ballottageFlames de CalgaryLNH-1 162 500 $111---0000--
Brännström, ErikExempté du ballottageSénateurs d'OttawaIR-647 499 $011---0000--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial2 250 006 $2344623612
Variation102 501 $0110-10
Final2 352 507 $ (↑)2345 (↑)63 (↑)35 (↓)12000

Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaSénateurs d'Ottawa

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Brännström, ErikExempté du ballottageSénateurs d'OttawaIR-647 499 $011---0000--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Monahan, SeanFlames de CalgaryLNH-4 781 250 $111---0000--
Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (Logo de Wild du MinnesotaMIN)---010------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial11 281 262 $2146653914
Variation-4 133 751 $100010
Final7 147 511 $ (↓)22 (↑)4665310 (↑)14000
30 nov. 2021 à 16 h 7
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Im pretty sure Flames take this and run
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I just don't see the return enough for Minnesota to do this, maybe have ottawa throw some more in
30 nov. 2021 à 17 h 0
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I just don't see the return enough for Minnesota to do this, maybe have ottawa throw some more in


Yeah, the return for Minny looks real suspect to me too
30 nov. 2021 à 17 h 5
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That's not enough for Minnesota, tbh. We are getting two prospects far from sure things while giving away a 30-goal scorer.
30 nov. 2021 à 17 h 16
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This is absolutely nit from Minnesota. Minnesota has zero interest in Sean Monahan. None
30 nov. 2021 à 17 h 38
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Monahan is off to the Sens in this proposal, probably understated Fiala's value here also. Calgary adding a 1st could make things more reasonable? Or a 2nd from Calgary and Ottawa, while Minny keeps the 3rd rounder. Calgary giving up too much at that point though. Real life trading seems so impossible and hopeless after playing around with this tool all day though haha
30 nov. 2021 à 17 h 49
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This is absolutely nit from Minnesota. Minnesota has zero interest in Sean Monahan. None


Have you looked at who Monahan is actually going to? Its Ottawa
30 nov. 2021 à 19 h 1
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Have you looked at who Monahan is actually going to? Its Ottawa


OK erik k wouldn't play on Minnesota. Minnesota has zero need for jusso valma when wild just drafted two good d prospect last year, and two this year
30 nov. 2021 à 19 h 2
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Quoting: wizardofozzyip
Monahan is off to the Sens in this proposal, probably understated Fiala's value here also. Calgary adding a 1st could make things more reasonable? Or a 2nd from Calgary and Ottawa, while Minny keeps the 3rd rounder. Calgary giving up too much at that point though. Real life trading seems so impossible and hopeless after playing around with this tool all day though haha



You should probably look up Minnesota d prospect core. Take out both d prospect because they aren't needed, or wanted, and add alot more
2 déc. 2021 à 16 h 44
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Yeah, the return for Minny looks real suspect to me too


Quoting: EccE
That's not enough for Minnesota, tbh. We are getting two prospects far from sure things while giving away a 30-goal scorer.


I am trying to imagine the conversation with Guerin if this trade were proposed right now... Probably something like this...

Treliving: Pierre - this is never gonna work...
Dorion: Shut up Brad... It'll be fine... Guerin is new at this.....
Treliving: ... Ok... But I don't think...
Dorion: .... Its ringing.... Shut up!....
--- ring --- ring ----
Guerin: Hello?
Dorion: Hi Billy, I've got Brad from Calgary on the line and we have a deal for you...
Guerin: I'm listening
Dorion: Brad is going to move Valimaki and Monahan. I am looking to move Brannstrom. We're looking to get Fiala involved...
Guerin: I'm not sure there's enough to work with here...
Treliving: Well there would be retained salary and a third rounder involved...
Guerin: Ok... So.. I get Monahan at 50% salary for Fiala, Pierre gets Vali and a 3rd for Bran..., Brad ends up with Fiala and Bran...
Guerin: Seems like two separate trades... Why is Pierre on the line? Am I missing something...?
Dorion: ..... Um..... Yeah... No..... Ah.... That's not exactly what we had in mind.... You would be giving up the third rounder...
Guerin: .... Hmmm... Fiala and a third for Monahan is steep... Even if Monahan is at 50%....
Treliving: .... Well this is awkward... See Pierre... I told you... This won't work
Dorion: ... Shut up Brad....
Guerin: What is awkward? What won't work?
Dorion: You're right Billy... Brad gets Fiala.... but I would be getting Monahan and your third... Monahan is at full price though.
Guerin: And I get two injured d-men that have played 10 games total this year for half price? I don't think so...
Treliving: Vali isn't injured. He's just been a healthy scratch for 14 of 22 games this season. So, no he's not hurt. He's just not good enough to make the lineup...
Dorion: Brad you are not helping....
Guerin: .... (rolls eyes)...Even better... Sorry guys... Even if you're willing to retain max salary on both players, I'm out on this one...
Treliving: Should we even tell him?
Dorion: No... Just hang up...
Guerin: What? Tell me what?
Treliving: We... ah... sort of thought... ah.... maybe that... um.... You would be the one retaining salary... you know... on Fiala....
--- click ----
Dorion: I think he hung up...
Treliving: I told you he wouldn't do it. What the hell is that noise? Do you hear that?
Dorion: I hear it too... No idea what it is... Sounds like it is coming from outside...
--- The sound of Guerin's thunderous laughter echoes across Canada from Calgary all the way to Ottawa ---
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I am trying to imagine the conversation with Guerin if this trade were proposed right now... Probably something like this...

Treliving: Pierre - this is never gonna work...
Dorion: Shut up Brad... It'll be fine... Guerin is new at this.....
Treliving: ... Ok... But I don't think...
Dorion: .... Its ringing.... Shut up!....
--- ring --- ring ----
Guerin: Hello?
Dorion: Hi Billy, I've got Brad from Calgary on the line and we have a deal for you...
Guerin: I'm listening
Dorion: Brad is going to move Valimaki and Monahan. I am looking to move Brannstrom. We're looking to get Fiala involved...
Guerin: I'm not sure there's enough to work with here...
Treliving: Well there would be retained salary and a third rounder involved...
Guerin: Ok... So.. I get Monahan at 50% salary for Fiala, Pierre gets Vali and a 3rd for Bran..., Brad ends up with Fiala and Bran...
Guerin: Seems like two separate trades... Why is Pierre on the line? Am I missing something...?
Dorion: ..... Um..... Yeah... No..... Ah.... That's not exactly what we had in mind.... You would be giving up the third rounder...
Guerin: .... Hmmm... Fiala and a third for Monahan is steep... Even if Monahan is at 50%....
Treliving: .... Well this is awkward... See Pierre... I told you... This won't work
Dorion: ... Shut up Brad....
Guerin: What is awkward? What won't work?
Dorion: You're right Billy... Brad gets Fiala.... but I would be getting Monahan and your third... Monahan is at full price though.
Guerin: And I get two injured d-men that have played 10 games total this year for half price? I don't think so...
Treliving: Vali isn't injured. He's just been a healthy scratch for 14 of 22 games this season. So, no he's not hurt. He's just not good enough to make the lineup...
Dorion: Brad you are not helping....
Guerin: .... (rolls eyes)...Even better... Sorry guys... Even if you're willing to retain max salary on both players, I'm out on this one...
Treliving: Should we even tell him?
Dorion: No... Just hang up...
Guerin: What? Tell me what?
Treliving: We... ah... sort of thought... ah.... maybe that... um.... You would be the one retaining salary... you know... on Fiala....
--- click ----
Dorion: I think he hung up...
Treliving: I told you he wouldn't do it. What the hell is that noise? Do you hear that?
Dorion: I hear it too... No idea what it is... Sounds like it is coming from outside...
--- The sound of Guerin's thunderous laughter echoes across Canada from Calgary all the way to Ottawa ---


This is amazing, thank you! grin
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3 déc. 2021 à 0 h 58
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This is amazing, thank you! grin


Yeah.... That one sort of went down the rabbit hole.... I was just trying to imagine how that conversation would evolve... I think I got pretty close.
 
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