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VAN full out rebuild

Créé par: goknightsgo
Équipe: 2021-22 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 30 nov. 2021
Publié: 30 nov. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
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VAN
  1. Fiala, Kevin
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (MIN)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (SJS)
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3.
VAN
  1. Dellandrea, Ty
  2. Sjöberg, Albert [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (DAL)
  4. Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (DAL)
Détails additionnels:
any team 2 prospects and late picks
4.
VAN
  1. Gallagher, Brendan
  2. Toffoli, Tyler
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (TBL)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
MTL
  1. Horvat, Bo
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (DAL)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
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30 nov. 2021 à 7 h 46
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As a habs fan it would suck to see Gally go, but habs got to accept that trade.
30 nov. 2021 à 8 h 6
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Quoting: Fire_Ducharme
As a habs fan it would suck to see Gally go, but habs got to accept that trade.


Well, you're not going to get the chance to. VAN doesn't even pick up the phone for this one.

Benning may be bad at his job, but this is whole new level bad.
30 nov. 2021 à 8 h 15
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Quoting: Ritzy
Well, you're not going to get the chance to. VAN doesn't even pick up the phone for this one.

Benning may be bad at his job, but this is whole new level bad.

That’s why I said Montreal can’t pass. Its completely lopsided in favour of mtl
30 nov. 2021 à 8 h 19
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A nice rebuild especially when you're trading away a 1st rounder... ARI declines their trade and VAN declines the other three
30 nov. 2021 à 8 h 42
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Quoting: Fire_Ducharme
That’s why I said Montreal can’t pass. Its completely lopsided in favour of mtl


Don't see how you can say that, Horvat = Toffoli + 2nd Gallagher = 1st + 2nd + top prospect. Elite 25+ goal scorers don't come along everyday and at 6.25 Mil it's a reasonable cap hit for such a player. Term may be 2 years too long but that doesn't affect the value that much.

Edit*** I guess I could have gone Gally + 3rd = Horvat since the only difference is Horvat is a little younger. Then Toffoli would = 1st + 3rd which means you gave away a Yoffoli at a severely reduced price and a 4th for free.
30 nov. 2021 à 8 h 47
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Quoting: Campabee
Don't see how you can say that, Horvat = Toffoli + 2nd Gallagher = 1st + 2nd + top prospect. Elite 25+ goal scorers don't come along everyday and at 6.25 Mil it's a reasonable cap hit for such a player. Term may be 2 years too long but that doesn't affect the value that much.


Vancouver wouldn’t trade their captain, and good draft picks for Gally and Toffoli. It’s not a knock to them they are good top 6 wingers, but Horvat is a younger top 6 centre and a couple picks. The value favours Montreal AND I don’t see why Vancouver does this especially if it’s a rebuild like the title says
30 nov. 2021 à 8 h 52
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Vancouver wouldn’t trade their captain, and good draft picks for Gally and Toffoli. It’s not a knock to them they are good top 6 wingers, but Horvat is a younger top 6 centre and a couple picks. The value favours Montreal AND I don’t see why Vancouver does this especially if it’s a rebuild like the title says


I agree that Vancouver wouldn't/shouldn't do the trade especially if rebuilding but that wasn't the argument the argument was the value. Montreal loses more in the trade valuewise than the Canucks. Gallagher's contract may not age well but we are talking the last 2 maybe 3 years of the contract not the entire length. RN the difference between Horvat and Gallagher is a 3rd (maybe a 2nd) Toffoli should easily net a 1st or 1st + 3rd.
30 nov. 2021 à 9 h 4
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Quoting: Campabee
I agree that Vancouver wouldn't/shouldn't do the trade especially if rebuilding but that wasn't the argument the argument was the value. Montreal loses more in the trade valuewise than the Canucks. Gallagher's contract may not age well but we are talking the last 2 maybe 3 years of the contract not the entire length. RN the difference between Horvat and Gallagher is a 3rd (maybe a 2nd) Toffoli should easily net a 1st or 1st + 3rd.


i did that but then people said its not a good deal so i changed it now your telling me to change it back?
30 nov. 2021 à 9 h 7
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i did that but then people said its not a good deal so i changed it now your telling me to change it back?


I am saying, valuewise it's closer to what I outlined but Vancouver probably never considers the trade since Horvat is younger and the Canucks are probably going to rebuild/retool and look for younger players.
30 nov. 2021 à 9 h 14
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Quoting: Fire_Ducharme
Vancouver wouldn’t trade their captain, and good draft picks for Gally and Toffoli. It’s not a knock to them they are good top 6 wingers, but Horvat is a younger top 6 centre and a couple picks. The value favours Montreal AND I don’t see why Vancouver does this especially if it’s a rebuild like the title says


I mean, i don't think the habs will want to trade their future captain as well.
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30 nov. 2021 à 9 h 16
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Quoting: Campabee
I am saying, valuewise it's closer to what I outlined but Vancouver probably never considers the trade since Horvat is younger and the Canucks are probably going to rebuild/retool and look for younger players.


i dont like the trade as much as u would think. That would happen if the current gm stays because he is tryna trade horvat anway
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30 nov. 2021 à 9 h 17
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Quoting: DaBus
A nice rebuild especially when you're trading away a 1st rounder... ARI declines their trade and VAN declines the other three


Arizona would not decline. I did his deal in onlne leagues many times and every time each side accepted
 
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