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Is value right

Créé par: NYR1983
Date de création initiale: 29 nov. 2021
Publié: 29 nov. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Rangers de New York
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Only way to keep him long term is with retention and I feel like he is that “gritty” type of guy they have been adding. He has had good playoff runs and could be a valuable post season player who also could be a solid bet for the young 3rd line.
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1.
NYR
  1. Toffoli, Tyler (2 125 000 $ retained)
MTL
  1. Kravtsov, Vitali
  2. 2022 1e round pick (NYR)
Rachats de contrats
  • Henrik Lundqvist: 1 500 000 $
  • Kevin Shattenkirk: 1 433 333 $
  • Dan Girardi: 1 111 111 $
  • Anthony Deangelo: 383 334 $
  • Brad Richards: 0 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
NYR
STL
NYR
WPG
NYR
NYR
2023
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
2024
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2481 500 000 $73 265 594 $0 $7 550 000 $8 234 406 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
NYR
Kreider, Chris
6 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
NYR
Zibanejad, Mika
5 350 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
NYR
Kakko, Kaapo
925 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
NYR
Panarin, Artemi
11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 5
NYR
Strome, Ryan
4 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
NYR
Gauthier, Julien
775 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
NYR
Lafrenière, Alexis
925 000 $
AG
RFA - 2
NYR
Chytil, Filip
2 300 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
MTL
Toffoli, Tyler
2 125 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
NYR
Rooney, Kevin
750 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
NYR
Goodrow, Barclay
3 641 667 $
AG, C, AD
NTC
UFA - 6
NYR
Reaves, Ryan
1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
NYR
Hunt, Dryden
762 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
NYR
McKegg, Greg
750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
NYR
Lindgren, Ryan
3 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
NYR
Fox, Adam
925 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
NYR
Shesterkin, Igor
5 666 667 $
G
UFA - 4
NYR
Miller, K'Andre
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
NYR
Trouba, Jacob
8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
NYR
Georgiev, Alexandar
2 425 000 $
G
RFA - 1
NYR
Nemeth, Patrik
2 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
NYR
Lundkvist, Nils
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
NYR
Tinordi, Jarred
900 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
NYR
Hájek, Libor
874 125 $
DG
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
NYR
Blais, Samuel
1 500 000 $
AD
RFA - 1

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29 nov. 2021 à 18 h 42
#1
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Yes it is
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29 nov. 2021 à 18 h 42
#2
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I feel like the retention makes it too in favor of NYR.
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29 nov. 2021 à 18 h 43
#3
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Quoting: villenash
I feel like the retention makes it too in favor of NYR.


I think this return makes it worth considering retaining
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29 nov. 2021 à 18 h 49
#4
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Quoting: villenash
I feel like the retention makes it too in favor of NYR.


maybe throw someone like Morgan Barron in there?
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29 nov. 2021 à 18 h 58
#5
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I love Toffoli but hell no.
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29 nov. 2021 à 19 h 0
#6
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
I love Toffoli but hell no.


Who would you target with that package instead?
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29 nov. 2021 à 19 h 1
#7
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
Who would you target with that package instead?


Probably would do that for a 2C but Toffoli hasn't always put up numbers like he did In MTL last season. It was an outlier year for the most part.

Buying high is risky.
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29 nov. 2021 à 20 h 25
#8
LafreneiretoKravtsov
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Rangers aren't adding a first t Kravtsov to get Toffoli
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29 nov. 2021 à 20 h 29
#9
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Quoting: Josh
Rangers aren't adding a first t Kravtsov to get Toffoli


6.4M of retention over 3 years is what 1/2 of the compensation is for. Considering our cap situation moving forward. Our 1st should be 24-32OA and Kravs is probably worth about the same.
29 nov. 2021 à 20 h 33
#10
LafreneiretoKravtsov
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Quoting: NYR1983
6.4M of retention over 3 years is what 1/2 of the compensation is for. Considering our cap situation moving forward. Our 1st should be 24-32OA and Kravs is probably worth about the same.


It's a huge overpayment for a guy that doesn't kill penalties, doesn't play C, and doesn't win faceoffs. That's what they need in the playoffs.
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29 nov. 2021 à 20 h 42
#11
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Quoting: Josh
It's a huge overpayment for a guy that doesn't kill penalties, doesn't play C, and doesn't win faceoffs. That's what they need in the playoffs.


Well he’s a gritty RW which we need and ya he obviously doesn’t take faceoffs and while we need that, it will be harder to come by than you may think and that only solves the problem for a playoff run and then we probably lose strome to add to it. Kill penalties, why do we need that, we have it already.. we have more than enough guys that do it. Winning faceoffs is going to require major disruption to the roster by moving Zibby or Strome out which might be a bad idea but may work out. Not like this guy has won cups in the past or just helped lead MTL to the finals 🤷🏻‍♂️
29 nov. 2021 à 21 h 49
#12
LafreneiretoKravtsov
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Quoting: NYR1983
Well he’s a gritty RW which we need and ya he obviously doesn’t take faceoffs and while we need that, it will be harder to come by than you may think and that only solves the problem for a playoff run and then we probably lose strome to add to it. Kill penalties, why do we need that, we have it already.. we have more than enough guys that do it. Winning faceoffs is going to require major disruption to the roster by moving Zibby or Strome out which might be a bad idea but may work out. Not like this guy has won cups in the past or just helped lead MTL to the finals 🤷🏻‍♂️


19th in PK with shesterkin standing on his head
30th in faceoffs

It doesn't require moving Strome or Zibanejad, just taking their pk time, some defensive coverages and some defensive zone draws. Benefits the Rangers during those times, and keeps the top 2Cs fresh.
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29 nov. 2021 à 21 h 52
#13
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Quoting: Josh
19th in PK with shesterkin standing on his head
30th in faceoffs

It doesn't require moving Strome or Zibanejad, just taking their pk time, some defensive coverages and some defensive zone draws. Benefits the Rangers during those times, and keeps the top 2Cs fresh.


So what PK specialists that play C and win 52%+ faceoffs are out there and available?
2 déc. 2021 à 14 h 3
#14
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Quoting: Josh
19th in PK with shesterkin standing on his head
30th in faceoffs

It doesn't require moving Strome or Zibanejad, just taking their pk time, some defensive coverages and some defensive zone draws. Benefits the Rangers during those times, and keeps the top 2Cs fresh.


Are you still working on that short list? Lol

That’s my point precisely, what we need most isn’t available and if or when that becomes available there will be 18 teams looking to acquire it. But I would love to have that top pk and faceoff C if he is out there
 
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