I’d do it from oilers perspective. Risk willing to take.

do you really wanna talk about a leadership group being good when the most vet 'leader' was part of one of the worst known abuse cases the league has ever had and he didnt lead during that?

Do we really want to point fingers and cast aspersions about someones character when there is ZERO proof he had any knowledge of the kyle beach situation until well after aldrich was gone?

Dustin Byfuglien couldn't.

Sharks do that easily. I like this trade

So Brent Sopel is a liar with his claim "Everybody knew"

3 reasons oilers dont do this
1. on several teams his teammates didnt like him and was a headache to deal with.
2. Fake vaccination = not vaccinated fully or at all so he would have to quarantine every time they played in the US and came back
3. there is a casino attached to the rink odds are they would never be able to find him on game days

Sharks accept. This is more assets than I was expecting, but Yamamoto and Lavoie for taking on Turris and getting rid of Kane is a very good price.

NOPE! Kane at 50% might get Turris + a 2nd.

Even at that im not risking it to add Kane.

i just struggle to understand why we are taking brent sopels word as gospel truth and ignoring what duncan keith, jonathan toews, and patrick kane have said.

Why is brent sopels word carrying more weight than the actual people themselves.

i mean, we have a ton of quotes from former players that literally say that the entire team knew while it was happening and that people on the team were mocking and insulting beach during practices and in the dressing room etc etc etc. The fact that people absolutely refuse to learn anything about this situation before posting stuff like this is so tiring.

Edmonton declines. At the very minimum Yamamoto shouldn't be included... I don't think you understand the negativity surrounding this player. Why are you giving up any assets at all for him? If SJ wanted to retain 50% and throw in their 1st you'd have to consider it, but I'm not sure they'd have many takers even at that.

yeah, why would we believe a guy who has nothing to hide instead of the people who benefit from lying about it?

Sharks accept.

Not saying it is gospel, but there is evidence he knew . To say otherwise means you think Sopel is flat out lying. When I look at he said he said I temnd to give less weight when a person has a LOT!! to loose compared to someone who really has nothing either way. If The NHL can prove Keith knew he stands to loose millions of dollars.

If Sopel (and other players such as Nick Boynton) are claiming that everybody knew, why didn't Sopel/Boynton/others step up and say anything? If anything, they confirmed that they knew, and also confirmed they did nothing about it themselves..

yep, they sure are saying that. So why would they lie about it? it's called remorse and personal growth. Seriously sick and tired of this hand waiving away because it's inconveniant. These players have zero benefit to coming clean save a clear conscience and giving Beach a chance to heal while cowards like toes and keith hope hand waiving it away with cookie cutter quotes will make it all go away and their reputations will survive. And people like you are helping that happen

He should have which gives it more credibility in my eyes it kinda makes him look scummy in my opinion it would've been
Easy for him to just shut up and say nothing now,, unless he's got some I no tervirw fees or something,but that seems unlikely.

Vaccination is not an issue. He got the shot last month it was reported here by the sharks

He is vaxxed so that isn’t an issue