Dont rebuild

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Créé par: Blazingbat11

Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 29 nov. 2021

Publié: 29 nov. 2021

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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Regardless of who's the new GM (my money is on Darche or Madden), don't rebuild.

On offense, Habs need a top 6 C to replace Danault. On the wings they are awesome. Don't touch it. Everyone hoped Dvorak would replace Danault, but he's not. He replaced KK (as in both are inconsistent at either end of the ice, although Dvorak is solid on faceoffs).

If Horvat really is on the market. Give whatever it takes imo to get him with the exceptions of Suzuki, Caufield, and the Habs 2022 1st rd pick. Horvat wouldn't just be Danault's replacement, but an improvement. Not to mention seeing him and Toffoli playing together would be awesome.

Still sell at the deadline (Chiarot, Kulak, etc.), and look to improve the defense in the offseason.

Hopefully once Edmundson returns he can knock Petry on his noggin and wake him from from the coma he's been in since the start of the season...

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Whatever Ken Holland ends up paying for him ;)

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Chiarot, Ben

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Horvat, Bo

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Détails additionnels:

+ a draft pick (except MTLs 2022 1st rd pick, which will most likely be top 5)

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To anyone...for anything

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Kulak, Brett

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To anyone...for anything

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Wideman, Chris

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Karl Alzner: 1 958 333 $

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	81 500 000 $	69 797 144 $	597 561 $	1 557 500 $	11 702 856 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hoffman, Mike 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG UFA - 3	Suzuki, Nick 863 333 $863 333 $ (537 500 $$538K) C UFA - 1	Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 6
Toffoli, Tyler 2 125 000 $2 125 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 3	Horvat, Bo 4 125 000 $4 125 000 $ C UFA - 2	Caufield, Cole 880 833 $880 833 $ (300 000 $$300K) AG, AD UFA - 2
Drouin, Jonathan 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 2	Dvorak, Christian 4 450 000 $4 450 000 $ C UFA - 4	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 6
Byron, Paul 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Evans, Jake 750 000 $750 000 $ C UFA - 1	Armia, Joel 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 4

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Edmundson, Joel 875 000 $875 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 3	Petry, Jeff 2 343 750 $2 343 750 $ DD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4	Allen, Jake 2 875 000 $2 875 000 $ G UFA - 2
Niku, Sami 750 000 $750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Romanov, Alexander 894 167 $894 167 $ (637 500 $$638K) DG RFA - 1	McNiven, Michael 750 000 $750 000 $ G UFA - 1
Norlinder, Mattias 859 167 $859 167 $ (82 500 $$82K) DG RFA - 3	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 4

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Paquette, Cédric 950 000 $950 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 1	Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 5	Weber, Shea 7 857 143 $7 857 143 $ DD UFA - 5
Perreault, Mathieu 950 000 $950 000 $ AG, AD, C UFA - 1

29 nov. 2021 à 10 h 40

ragger_lord

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I know you said plus a draft pick but that's really not an attractive offer for Horvat.

CD282 a aimé ceci.

29 nov. 2021 à 10 h 45

Blazingbat11

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Quoting: ragger_lord

I know you said plus a draft pick but that's really not an attractive offer for Horvat.

Could be a 1st in 2023 (lottery protected), would be willing to replace Poehling with Evans.

There's a reason I put Harris first on the Habs side of the deal. He's probably the Habs most valuable prospect not in the pros at the moment.

https://theathletic.com/2973346/2021/11/24/the-best-defenceman-in-the-country-who-is-jordan-harris-the-prospect-the-canadiens-must-do-everything-to-keep/

29 nov. 2021 à 10 h 48

Juiceman

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Canucks decline. Not shopping Horvat and that deal is very unappealing. Many other teams could do better

29 nov. 2021 à 10 h 50

TheAlien

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A first that's not even in 2022 and a bunch of junk doesn't even come close

29 nov. 2021 à 10 h 51

Boldirev

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Quoting: Blazingbat11

Horvat gets a first, an A prospect and probably a decent roster player, maybe more given the high interest in him. The Habs can't/won't make a deal like that. This one isn't even close to that....

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29 nov. 2021 à 10 h 56

Blazingbat11

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Quoting: Boldirev

Horvat gets a first, an A prospect and probably a decent roster player, maybe more given the high interest in him. The Habs can't/won't make a deal like that. This one isn't even close to that....

I think Lehkonen fits the "decent roster player", and I've said I'd include a 1st. So the issue here is the A prospect. Poehling is definitely not that, and I'd put Harris more in the B level. So am I really that far off?

29 nov. 2021 à 11 h 7

ragger_lord

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Quoting: Blazingbat11

I wouldn't say you're that far off.

A future first is definitely harder to swallow than this year's though. Then there's so the issue of finding an A prospect

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29 nov. 2021 à 11 h 10

Boldirev

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Quoting: Blazingbat11

Given that an "A" RD prospect is probably the lynchpin in any trade the Canucks make to move out any of their premium pieces, I would say yes. Also this years and next years first won't be on the table for the Habs....how could it?? So again, yes.

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29 nov. 2021 à 11 h 13

majormoose007

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gonna need more for horvat

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29 nov. 2021 à 11 h 59

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Xspyrit

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Sens offer

Erik Brannstrom (LD)
Lassi Thomson (RD)
1st round pick in 2023

Of course, would need an extension for Horvat

Note : since I always say trade for D-men and not forwards, after acquiring Horvat, I'd go after a young veteran RD using some picks and forward prospects

29 nov. 2021 à 12 h 48

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BigBadBurke

PittsburghModelMyAss

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Horvat is overrated and will most likely be overvalued on the UFA market and signed to a stupid deal. Tbh I’d take Danault at 5.5 over Horvat at wtv the hell he ends up getting anyday

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