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Next years cap issues solved

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Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 28 nov. 2021
Publié: 28 nov. 2021
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    28 nov. 2021 à 22 h 8
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    If you end up with Gudbranson on your team you havent solved anything
    28 nov. 2021 à 22 h 22
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    Mrazek is not getting you a 2nd. He is often injured and is a backup more like a 4th round pick, if you are lucky.

    If Campbell plays like this all season he will want more then 4 million on a 4 year deal.
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    28 nov. 2021 à 22 h 24
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    Yep, nothing could be easier. Trading M NTC Mrazrek to "any team". Trading two NHL Dmen. Going with with 21 man roster and six Dmen and one of those Dmen is Gudbranson. Campbell for less $$$$, than he could get elsewhere.
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    28 nov. 2021 à 22 h 32
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    It’s possible, though unlikely that liljegren signs for 3x1.05.
    It’s possible, though extremely unlikely that liljegren is a top four guy.

    But those two things can’t really happen together.
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    28 nov. 2021 à 23 h 1
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    Quoting: CMcAvoy73
    It’s possible, though unlikely that liljegren signs for 3x1.05.
    It’s possible, though extremely unlikely that liljegren is a top four guy.

    But those two things can’t really happen together.


    Something like that happens literally every offseason in the league. Liljegren hasn't really shown he's a top 4 guy yet, signs to a deal then plays into that kind of role.
    28 nov. 2021 à 23 h 2
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    Something like that happens literally every offseason in the league. Liljegren hasn't really shown he's a top 4 guy yet, signs to a deal then plays into that kind of role.


    Like who? Name one. Happens every year, so one should be easy.
    28 nov. 2021 à 23 h 4
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    Modifié 28 nov. 2021 à 23 h 17
    Quoting: CMcAvoy73
    Like who? Name one. Happens every year, so one should be easy.


    Troy Terry in Anaheim. Signed to 3x1.45 and here he is being one of the most effective forwards in the league.

    Yamamoto in Edmonton. Signed to 1x1.11 and he's playing on Edmonton's top 6.

    Svechnickov bouncing into and out of Winnipegs top 6 on a league min deal.

    Samsonov in Washington, starting goalie now signed on a 2 mil aav deal.

    Lets broaden our look a bit. You are a Boston fan, did Marchand play his way up from his current deal? If he had signed his current deal with his play now he'd be on a 10+ mil aav.


    I'm going to guess by the fact you haven't replied yet that you decided to tuck tail and run away,
    28 nov. 2021 à 23 h 23
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    Quoting: Byrr
    Troy Terry in Anaheim. Signed to 3x1.45 and here he is being one of the most effective forwards in the league.

    Yamamoto in Edmonton. Signed to 1x1.11 and he's playing on Edmonton's top 6.

    Svechnickov bouncing into and out of Winnipegs top 6 on a league min deal.

    Samsonov in Washington, starting goalie now signed on a 2 mil aav deal.

    Lets broaden out look a bit. You are a Boston fan, did Marchand play his way up from his current deal? If he signed it now with his current play, he'd be on a 10+ mil aav.


    I'm going to guess by the fact you haven't replied yet that you decided to tuck tail and run away,


    3x1.45 is not 3x1.05. And terry was mediocre the first year of that deal. Now he’s had a solid 20 games in the second year of his deal. Sick. He’s also a forward.
    1x1.11 is not 3x1.05.
    1x750K is not 3x1.05. Congrats on the one goal through 21 games though.
    Samsonov. The goalie. Uhhh, okay. 1x2 is not 3x1.05. Were you being obtuse or do you need it to be explained why term matters.

    Or i guess would you like to try again.

    Marchand? What? He was playing top six when he signed for…what for it…2 years, and 2.5M, which in todays cap world is 3.17. So what on earth are you talking about?

    15 minutes? That’s how long you gave me before assuming I, “tucked tail and ran away?” What a joke. Do you want to try again and give me just one (1) example of a similar instance. Try harder.
    28 nov. 2021 à 23 h 27
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    Quoting: CMcAvoy73
    3x1.45 is not 3x1.05. And terry was mediocre the first year of that deal. Now he’s had a solid 20 games in the second year of his deal. Sick. He’s also a forward.


    I'm going to focus on this one since its the best comparable. Liljegren has been mediocre. He's not lighting the world on fire on the 3rd pair. 3x1.45 isn't 3x1.05 but its a comparable amount. He's not a forward but again, it's still a comparable situation. You just decided to be an idiot and completely miss the point. Players are signed to deals reflecting their current play and outperform them literally every season. It's not an unreasonable take to pay Liljegren reflecting his current play then project he might slide in for Justin ****ing Holl.
    28 nov. 2021 à 23 h 29
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    I'm going to focus on this one since its the best comparable. Liljegren has been mediocre. He's not lighting the world on fire on the 3rd pair. 3x1.45 isn't 3x1.05 but its a comparable amount. He's not a forward but again, it's still a comparable situation. You just decided to be an idiot.


    Okay, so if you wanted to tell me that in a couple years, he’s a top four guy, I think that’s at least feasible. Him signing for that and then instantly being a top four guy is bogus. You know it.

    You should have focused on the whole thing. You used a goalie that signed for 1x2. C’mon. Be better.
    28 nov. 2021 à 23 h 31
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    Okay, so if you wanted to tell me that in a couple years, he’s a top four guy, I think that’s at least feasible. Him signing for that and then instantly being a top four guy is bogus. You know it.


    Him signing that then being given the opportunity to replace Justin Holl isn't bogus at all.
    28 nov. 2021 à 23 h 32
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    Him signing that then replacing Justin Holl isn't bogus at all.


    If he was good enough to do that he would get more. I’m sure his agent isn’t a complete moron.
    28 nov. 2021 à 23 h 33
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    If he was good enough to do that he would get more. I’m sure his agent isn’t a complete moron.


    And Marchand has scored more points over the last 5 seasons than everyone except Draisaitl and McDavid. Troy Terry is one of the highest scorers in the league. I guess their agents were just a complete morons.
    28 nov. 2021 à 23 h 35
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    And Marchand has scored more points over the last 5 seasons than everyone except Draisaitl and McDavid. I guess his agent was just a complete moron.


    What does that have to do with anything?
    28 nov. 2021 à 23 h 36
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    What does that have to do with anything?


    Because the point is they outperformed their contracts. It happens literally every season as I've shown and as the OP is hoping for here.
    28 nov. 2021 à 23 h 38
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    Because the point is they outperformed their contracts. It happens literally every season as I've shown.


    You’re comparing a guy signing a $49M contract to a guy signing an RFA deal that would warrant no compensation if it were an offer sheet instantly stepping into a top four role.

    You also compared a bunch of guys that signed one year deals. How are you not getting this?
    28 nov. 2021 à 23 h 39
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    You’re comparing a guy signing a $49M contract to a guy signing an RFA deal that would warrant no compensation if it were an offer sheet instantly stepping into a top four role.

    You also compared a bunch of guys that signed one year deals. How are you not getting this?


    Troy Terry isn't a 1 year deal.
    28 nov. 2021 à 23 h 41
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    Troy Terry isn't a 1 year deal.


    And he didn’t instantly step into a bigger role. He did a couple years out.
    28 nov. 2021 à 23 h 42
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    And he didn’t instantly step into a bigger role. He did a couple years out.


    And? The Ducks signed him to term thinking he could step into a bigger role and he did. Liljegren doesn't exactly have to set the world on fire here. Like I pointed out before, he's replacing Justin Holl.
    28 nov. 2021 à 23 h 44
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    And? The Ducks signed him to term thinking he could step into a bigger role and he did. Liljegren doesn't exactly have to set the world on fire here. Like I pointed out before, he's replacing Justin Holl.


    Again, how are you not seeing the difference here?

    Troy Terry took a while to develop after signing that deal. This concept has Liljegren signing with term for a million per and instantly just being like, “hey, I’m a top four d man!” It’s a preposterously unrealistic notion.
    28 nov. 2021 à 23 h 45
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    Again, how are you not seeing the difference here?

    Troy Terry took a while to develop after signing that deal. This concept has Liljegren signing with term for a million per and instantly just being like, “hey, I’m a top four d man!” It’s a preposterously unrealistic notion.


    Terry took 1 season, he didn't take awhile. Its literally whats expected here. Liljegren doesn't even have to succeed in the role. OP just wants to give him a chance to.

    Look at it this way. If you were signing Liljegren to his extention right now, regardless of this OP, what would you pay him?
    29 nov. 2021 à 0 h 26
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    I know Woll has looked good but idk if I would put my faith in him for a whole season

    Campbell is still new to the starter job and we dont want to overwork him. Mrazek prevents that as he is a backup who can play 35+ games. As we saw with Boston with Rask and Halak having the starting goalie rested is a huge benefit these days.

    If Woll is the backup Jack potentially could be overworked which could result in injuries or exhaustion. Despite the cap hit keeping Mrazek just makes to much sense rn especially if the team wants to go on a run as lets be honest if Campbell got hurt would you trust Woll to carry the load in either a 10 game stretch or the playoffs over Mrazek?
    29 nov. 2021 à 7 h 24
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    Exchanging Holl and Dermott for Gudbranson and Stone may solve your cap issues all right, but that will create certain other, more significant problems with a more lasting effect.
    29 nov. 2021 à 8 h 15
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    Yep, nothing could be easier. Trading M NTC Mrazrek to "any team". Trading two NHL Dmen. Going with with 21 man roster and six Dmen and one of those Dmen is Gudbranson. Campbell for less $$$$, than he could get elsewhere.


    Its literally 7 defenseman
    29 nov. 2021 à 10 h 35
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    Lil will go 1 year at that
     
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