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If things dont go well this year - Rebuild

Créé par: l19f9
Date de création initiale: 27 nov. 2021
Publié: 27 nov. 2021
Équipe: 2022-23 Bruins de Boston
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
DeBrusk, Jake23 750 000 $
Steen, Oskar2800 000 $
Studnicka, Jack2800 000 $
Vaakanainen, Urho2800 000 $
Zboril, Jakub2900 000 $
Senyshyn, Zach2900 000 $
Kuhlman, Karson1800 000 $
Keyser, Kyle1800 000 $
Ahcan, Jack1800 000 $
Booth, Callum1800 000 $
Hughes, Cameron1800 000 $
Wolff, Nick1800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Bergeron, Patrice15 000 000 $
Frödén, Jesper2900 000 $
Lazar, Curtis2950 000 $
Rask, Tuukka22 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
BOS
  1. 2022 1e round pick (EDM)
  2. 2023 2e round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. Ullmark, Linus
2.
BOS
  1. 2022 2e round pick (CHI)
CHI
  1. Frederic, Trent
  2. Foligno, Nick
3.
BOS
  1. Toffoli, Tyler
  2. 2023 1e round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Coyle, Charlie
  2. Hall, Taylor
4.
BOS
  1. Karlsson, Erik
  2. 2023 1e round pick (SJS)
SJS
  1. Forbort, Derek
5.
BOS
  1. Skinner, Jeff
  2. 2022 1e round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Smith, Craig
  2. Moore, John
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
BOS
EDM
BUF
BOS
CHI
CGY
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
2023
BOS
MTL
SJS
BOS
EDM
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
2024
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $78 268 334 $0 $445 000 $3 231 666 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
BOS
Marchand, Brad
6 125 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 3
BOS
Bergeron, Patrice
5 000 000 $
C
UFA
BOS
Pastrnak, David
6 666 667 $
AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
BUF
Skinner, Jeff
9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 5
BOS
Haula, Erik
2 375 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
MTL
Toffoli, Tyler
4 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
BOS
Lauko, Jakub
764 167 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
BOS
Studnicka, Jack
800 000 $
AD, C
RFA
BOS
Lysell, Fabian
925 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
BOS
Nosek, Tomas
1 750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
BOS
Lazar, Curtis
950 000 $
C, AD
UFA
BOS
Frödén, Jesper
900 000 $
AD
UFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
BOS
Grzelcyk, Matt
3 687 500 $
DG
UFA - 2
BOS
McAvoy, Charlie
9 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 8
Rask, Tuukka
2 000 000 $
G
UFA
BOS
Reilly, Mike
3 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
BOS
Carlo, Brandon
4 100 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
BOS
Swayman, Jeremy
925 000 $
G
RFA - 1
BOS
Zboril, Jakub
900 000 $
DG/DD
RFA
SJS
Karlsson, Erik
11 500 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
BOS
Clifton, Connor
1 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
BOS
Wagner, Chris
1 350 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
BOS
Kuhlman, Karson
800 000 $
AD, C
RFA

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27 nov. 2021 à 18 h 27
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hard pass
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27 nov. 2021 à 18 h 31
#2
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No thx
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27 nov. 2021 à 18 h 31
#3
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In what world does Buffalo consider that???

Buffalo wouldn't even trade Skinner alone for that
27 nov. 2021 à 18 h 35
#4
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Despite him stabilizing a bit this season Skinner really still does have almost inverse Eichel value so it should be closer to his return from VGK recently
27 nov. 2021 à 18 h 43
#5
NUUUUUUUUUUGE
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that 2nd line...
27 nov. 2021 à 18 h 43
#6
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Quoting: Sabres_Insider
In what world does Buffalo consider that???

Buffalo wouldn't even trade Skinner alone for that


In a world where they want to properly compete in years to come with their nifty young core making it so that pick will be around 10th overall likely

Jeff even rn is still 5M$ negative value yearly

Currently as a 49 corsi team with PDO almost at 100 they're due to finish the season around .500 and mittsy and tuch returning will only help

Skinner nearing 30 likely to keep trending down

If I were them I'd try for a different return that takes back much more short term money that can be buried or bought out or broken down better but yeah
27 nov. 2021 à 18 h 50
#7
Vegan Commie Hipster
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I think this is a good idea for Boston in a few years as their 2025-2030 looks barren but they should wait as they're still a 54% corsi team with low PDO

Still a contender but maybe a bit less due to age

This is likely the beginning of the end
27 nov. 2021 à 18 h 56
#8
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Of course buffalo says no
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27 nov. 2021 à 18 h 58
#9
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The Sabres trade is absolutely LAUGHABLE
Why on earth would they trade away what’s likely to be a high 1st round pick???
The Sabres are ALREADY in a rebuild
And a couple of average Vets certainly aren’t gonna move the needle for them cut that short

Heck, i don’t think any of these trades are going through
Teams that are rebuilding themselves aren’t gonna give up their 1st round picks
There’s just no chance
27 nov. 2021 à 18 h 59
#10
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No. Ur trading to rebuilding teams. Know who ur trading towards
Buffalove et gretzkyghosts a aimé ceci.
27 nov. 2021 à 19 h 1
#11
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Quoting: Sabres_Insider
Buffalo wouldn't even trade Skinner alone for that


Holy hyperbole, Batman! Yes, I'm sure BUF would hate to get out from one of the worst contracts in the NHL as painlessly as this.
27 nov. 2021 à 19 h 2
#12
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Quoting: Radu47
In a world where they want to properly compete in years to come with their nifty young core making it so that pick will be around 10th overall likely

Jeff even rn is still 5M$ negative value yearly

Currently as a 49 corsi team with PDO almost at 100 they're due to finish the season around .500 and mittsy and tuch returning will only help

Skinner nearing 30 likely to keep trending down

If I were them I'd try for a different return that takes back much more short term money that can be buried or bought out or broken down better but yeah


Not a chance in hell Buffalo considers this

We don’t wanna get rid of Skinner,
we actually NEED his cap hit to get to the Cap floor

And we aren't gonna cut our rebuild short for guys like Smith & Moore
It’s utterly laughable that we’d consider this
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27 nov. 2021 à 19 h 3
#13
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Quoting: gmgb
Holy hyperbole, Batman! Yes, I'm sure BUF would hate to get out from one of the worst contracts in the NHL as painlessly as this.


We don’t wanna get out of that contract though
We actually NEED Skinner’s cap hit to get to the Cap floor

Nice try though
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27 nov. 2021 à 19 h 5
#14
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Sharks aren’t doing that, they wouldn’t even consider that.
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27 nov. 2021 à 19 h 6
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Quoting: Radu47
In a world where they want to properly compete in years to come with their nifty young core making it so that pick will be around 10th overall likely

Jeff even rn is still 5M$ negative value yearly

Currently as a 49 corsi team with PDO almost at 100 they're due to finish the season around .500 and mittsy and tuch returning will only help

Skinner nearing 30 likely to keep trending down

If I were them I'd try for a different return that takes back much more short term money that can be buried or bought out or broken down better but yeah


I can understand where you're coming from, but the Sabres won't be cap-strapped for years with all their young contracts.

IF they decided Skinner needed to come off their books, this trade doesn't happen for at least another two seasons and once the cap rises so his contract isn't completely detrimental to the team their trading him to. This trade now would be counter-productive to a Sabres rebuild
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27 nov. 2021 à 19 h 29
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Quoting: gmgb
Holy hyperbole, Batman! Yes, I'm sure BUF would hate to get out from one of the worst contracts in the NHL as painlessly as this.


It's a top 10 pick. We are nowhere close to the cap floor with out him and we are 2 years away from competing

It's laughably bad
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27 nov. 2021 à 19 h 39
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Pastrnak in one-year deal. Not selling him in rebuild?
27 nov. 2021 à 19 h 58
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
It's a top 10 pick. We are nowhere close to the cap floor with out him and we are 2 years away from competing

It's laughably bad


If you look at the statement I quoted, you'll see I was referring to the part about BUF not wanting to do it for Skinner alone. Obviously with BUF's lottery pick involved, it's ludicrously bad for the Sabres.
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27 nov. 2021 à 21 h 15
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Its fine as an exercise if you wanna see just how much it would take for a team to take jeff skinner at 9m for multiple seasons. Theres 31 nhl gms that are quite happy that jeff skinner isnt their problem, in no way does skinner at 9m in a flat cap have positive value. The reality is buffalo has no reason to move him right now, and every year he plays is 2 fewer years of retention when he does get bought out. I figure 2 years, the buyout looks almost bearable at that point. Trading first round picks to get cap space that we dont need, of course no.
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28 nov. 2021 à 10 h 46
#20
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Quoting: SalamiCheese
No thx
Quoting: Sabres_Insider
In what world does Buffalo consider that???...
Quoting: Radu47
..stabilizing a bit this season Skinner...
Quoting: Buffalove
The Sabres trade is absolutely LAUGHABLE...
Quoting: gmgb
...Yes, I'm sure BUF would hate to get out from one of the worst contracts in the NHL as painlessly as this.
Quoting: TonyInBuffalo
...Sabres won't be cap-strapped for years with all their young contracts....

Quoting: sabres89
...Trading first round picks to get cap space that we dont need, of course no.
I agree that this would be the worse trade the Sabres ever made.
Skinner is actually performing as expected. At this rate he will have 24 goals and 52 pts, close his life time average.
He is over paid as it was expected he would be playing with Jack and 40 goals seasons would be the norm.
Buffalo will NEED his contract for at least 3 more seasons and if he is bought out after that his buyout will last for only 4 more seasons.
The cap hits will be $4KK, $6KK, $2KK and $2KK, not good to have that much dead cap, but it is manageable.
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29 nov. 2021 à 22 h 13
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Modifié 29 nov. 2021 à 23 h 51
Quoting: gretzkyghosts
I agree that this would be the worse trade the Sabres ever made.
Skinner is actually performing as expected. At this rate he will have 24 goals and 52 pts, close his life time average.
He is over paid as it was expected he would be playing with Jack and 40 goals seasons would be the norm.
Buffalo will NEED his contract for at least 3 more seasons and if he is bought out after that his buyout will last for only 4 more seasons.
The cap hits will be $4KK, $6KK, $2KK and $2KK, not good to have that much dead cap, but it is manageable.


This guy’s trade proposal lacks sense in the same way MANY of the Eichel trade proposals on here did
It’s really, really bad
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