Massively overvaluing the Canucks pieces.

Wild don't have a need for a goalie

Minnesota doesn't need G. It's may be a 4th, or 5th, but no from Minnesota

Enough is enough is right!

The problem is ownership. Conflicting views at the top always means trouble. Until that is sorted, it doesn't matter what the Canucks do.

They've gone from being a perennial contender to a joke. The owners need to own that.

No set of trades is going to "fix" the Canucks. Sibling owners pulling on the rope in different directions is a recipe for disaster.

Which particular pieces are you referring too?

Those Washington and LA trades are looking absolutely terrible. Fat chance either one does it. Any explanation why they would even consider this?

All of them

Fair enough.
That trade should have said "Any team" like all the other depth trades made.

Interesting. Seems to be pretty close to the standard from what I have seen posted lately. I've made some similar ones in the past that have had fairly decent feedback.

When have prospects like Clarke, Turcotte ever been traded? It’s very, very rare. These guys are A+ names.

Lapierre, maybe, since they are trying win again in Ovechkins window.

Lets start with WASH.

WASH's window is still open but they are an aging team. In this trade the only roster player they trade is Leason. WASH gets a legitimate two-way 2C in Horvat who still has a year remaining on his very respectable deal. Horvat is also a faceoff ace and has the ability to put his team on his back in big games. He's the type of player all contenders should want on their roster and this will likely be around the cost to acquire him, B+ - A prospect 1st and young roster player.


The LA trade I can see how it might make less. My thoughts were LA is stacked down the middle with young prospects. Boeser is still young and will be an RFA at seasons end. I figured a young roster player with 30-40 potential could be a good piece to add to play with their exciting center depth. I will admit I didn't think to look at how deep LA was at the RD position so that could be an issue for LA. I posted a few days ago of a Boeser for Turcotte and 2nd and was told I was undervaluing Boeser but that Turcotte wasn't available. My understanding is Turcotte has greater value than Clarke.

I think that's a fair comment. Not often players of Boeser's age and talent are available either though.
Is Clarke considered an A+ prospect? I listen to a LOT of sports radio and he wasn't considered an A+ prospect when he was drafted in the summer. Maybe his stock has risen considerably since then. From what I have read from some previous posts Turcotte has been somewhat underwhelming so far since he was drafted.

I’d switch Clarke for turcotte and move the pick to ‘23 or make it too 10 protected for ‘22… but I’m not sure I’d even do that until we’ve seen turcotte with kings.

Turcotte
‘23 1st
‘22 3rd

Well said and I agree with you.

I do find it interesting though that they have owned the team since 2004 and the Canucks were a legitimate team and franchise from 06-07 until 12-13. I wonder what happened that has caused this franchise and ownership group to become an embarrassment?

That would be a preferred deal for me as well. Since I made the Miller for Barron Trade already, I would prefer to add an additional center prospect over an additional RD prospect.

Yeah I revised my quote a bit…. Instead of “I think” I changed to, not sure I’d even make this deal as we haven’t yet seen turcotte as a king. And yes, I’m getting worried he wasn’t worth taking at 5th overall. Still young though. Maybe he just needs more time which that’s what it seems like

For sure, hes still got time. I wasn't projecting him to be a 1C, hoping he would turn into a decent 2C down the road.

Oh yeah m, no, for me it was always 2c even when drafted as his cieling. Right now I’d say 3c/wing. I haven’t seen too many of his games this year but I know he’s playing 1/2c with reign. I don’t think he’ll ever get past 60ptd in a season

3 first round value asset for jt miller LMFAO. Eichel got 2 first round value assets and a middle 6 winger, lay off the pot kid

Just because he was drafted in the first round doesn't make Kaur a first round asset.

It's only a hair more than Coleman got at the deadline.

barron>>>> foote
avs 1st round pick> Bolts 1st
and kaut on top of it... definitely too much

Miller >>>>> Coleman

At the respective time of trades, Avs and Bolts firsts are basically the same, but the Avs first is a year out so less valuable.

Kaut could be left off. I don't think he has value more than a 3rd tbh.

Partnership in brethren.

One wants one thing the other wants another thing.

How often does that work out with majority ownership?

Nuff said.

Still a no for the Avs no matter how many times it's reposted.

I look at it similarly to ragged lord.
To me Barron is a good prospect, not an elite prospect.
The 1st will be closer to Arizona’s 2nd round pick than it will be to the majority of the leagues 1sts. It’s also not until the 2023 draft with decreases it’s value for this season.
Kaut is probably the equivalent to a later 2nd round pick now.

To me that seems like fair value for a versatile, PPG player who has an additional season left on his contract at 2.6 million.