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Créé par: mbaer84
Date de création initiale: 26 nov. 2021
Publié: 26 nov. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Canucks de Vancouver
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1.
VAN
  1. Jarvis, Seth
  2. 2023 2e round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. Miller, J.T.
  2. 2022 5e round pick (VAN)
2.
VAN
  1. 2022 2e round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Motte, Tyler
3.
VAN
    whatever
    BUF
    1. Myers, Tyler
    2. 2022 2e round pick (EDM)
    4.
    VAN
    1. Newhook, Alex
    2. 2023 2e round pick (COL)
    COL
    1. Horvat, Bo
    Rachats de contrats
    • Braden Holtby: 500 000 $
    • Jake Virtanen: 50 000 $
    Frais appliqués
    • Roberto Luongo: 3 035 212 $
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2022
    VAN
    WPG
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    2023
    VAN
    VAN
    CAR
    COL
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    2024
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    VAN
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2281 500 000 $64 530 659 $648 780 $3 982 500 $16 969 341 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    VAN
    Garland, Conor
    4 950 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 5
    VAN
    Pettersson, Elias
    7 350 000 $
    C
    RFA - 3
    VAN
    Boeser, Brock
    5 875 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
    VAN
    Höglander, Nils
    891 667 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 2
    COL
    Newhook, Alex
    908 333 $
    C
    RFA - 2
    CAR
    Jarvis, Seth
    894 167 $
    AD
    RFA - 3
    VAN
    Dickinson, Jason
    2 650 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 3
    VAN
    Dowling, Justin
    750 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 2
    VAN
    Podkolzin, Vasily
    925 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 3
    VAN
    Pearson, Tanner
    3 250 000 $
    AG
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    VAN
    Lammikko, Juho
    750 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    VAN
    Chiasson, Alex
    750 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    VAN
    Lockwood, William
    842 500 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    VAN
    Hughes, Quinn
    7 850 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 6
    VAN
    Poolman, Tucker
    2 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 4
    VAN
    Demko, Thatcher
    5 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 5
    VAN
    Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
    7 260 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    VAN
    Hamonic, Travis
    3 000 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    VAN
    Halák, Jaroslav
    1 500 000 $
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    VAN
    Hunt, Brad
    800 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    VAN
    Burroughs, Kyle
    750 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    VAN
    Schenn, Luke
    850 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    VAN
    Ferland, Micheal
    3 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    VAN
    Sutter, Brandon
    1 125 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 1
    VAN
    Keeper, Brady
    762 500 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    VAN
    Highmore, Matthew
    725 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1

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    26 nov. 2021 à 20 h 43
    #1
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    No chance Carolina considers that
    26 nov. 2021 à 20 h 43
    #2
    Miss the Thrashers
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    Carolina wouldn't move Jarvis for EICHEL. Why would they move him for Miller? Jarvis is playing top-line minutes and has a better point pace than Miller. This makes 0 sense.
    26 nov. 2021 à 21 h 4
    #3
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    Myers at $6mil for 2years after this is likely to cost more than a 2nd to get rid of
    Idk that he’d waive to come back to Buffalo anyways?
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    26 nov. 2021 à 23 h 31
    #4
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    Quoting: Buffalove
    Myers at $6mil for 2years after this is likely to cost more than a 2nd to get rid of
    Idk that he’d waive to come back to Buffalo anyways?


    All very good points
    26 nov. 2021 à 23 h 39
    #5
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    In principle the Avs should accept but will need to send some cap back (example JT Compher) or up the pick to a 1st and retain some.
    26 nov. 2021 à 23 h 54
    #6
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    Modifié 27 nov. 2021 à 0 h 10
    Quoting: sabres89
    All very good points


    Although to play devil’s advocate….
    Jokiharju is the only RH defenseman that we have signed for next year, so we are gonna need a couple guys
    And even though Myers is overpaid, that doesn’t particularly matter to us with all the Cap room we are gonna have.
    Heck, his $6mil cap hit could even help get us to the Cap floor.


    So i wouldn’t say it’s a horrible idea
    But the trade has gotta make sense for us,
    AND
    Myers has to be willing to come back here.

    It’s pretty clear we are specifically going after guys who do wanna be here. And while it’s possible Myers looks back on his time here fondly, he could also have a sour taste in his mouth from it not working out the first time.
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    27 nov. 2021 à 1 h 16
    #7
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    Quoting: TJTwolf
    In principle the Avs should accept but will need to send some cap back (example JT Compher) or up the pick to a 1st and retain some.


    Avs don’t touch that with a ten fool pole. Newhook is off limits. Horvat has no term left, and he’s struggling while being a guy who is being alphad in his own locker room.

    Horvat isn’t even an upgrade over kadri
    27 nov. 2021 à 1 h 45
    #8
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    Quoting: coga16
    Avs don’t touch that with a ten fool pole. Newhook is off limits. Horvat has no term left, and he’s struggling while being a guy who is being alphad in his own locker room.

    Horvat isn’t even an upgrade over kadri


    Absolutely disagree.
    27 nov. 2021 à 11 h 24
    #9
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    Quoting: Buffalove
    Although to play devil’s advocate….
    Jokiharju is the only RH defenseman that we have signed for next year, so we are gonna need a couple guys
    And even though Myers is overpaid, that doesn’t particularly matter to us with all the Cap room we are gonna have.
    Heck, his $6mil cap hit could even help get us to the Cap floor.


    So i wouldn’t say it’s a horrible idea
    But the trade has gotta make sense for us,
    AND
    Myers has to be willing to come back here.

    It’s pretty clear we are specifically going after guys who do wanna be here. And while it’s possible Myers looks back on his time here fondly, he could also have a sour taste in his mouth from it not working out the first time.


    I think part of the problem with the sabres over the last decade is the poor business decisions. One of the few things they have going their way is cap space, and they have plenty. They should be weaponizing cap space, taking short term cap dumps and getting the best picks possible for them. We are really doing vancouver a solid here, hes not a 6m player, and almost nobody is taking cap dumps. If you can charge for something, dont give it away. Also, im not even sure if the pegulas would take on extra cap right now. The johnny boychuk trade is actually pretty shrewd, his cap hit is 6, but it only costs the sabres 1.25m in actual money. The sabres after a decade of mismanagement are finally playing in front of 5000 people in their own barn, even if the sabres tickets are relatively cheap, thats a big hit, im guessing that every penny the sabres spend over the floor right now is coming from the pegulas directly. I do hope they sign off on weaponizing cap, but it better be first round picks.
    27 nov. 2021 à 15 h 44
    #10
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    Quoting: sabres89
    I think part of the problem with the sabres over the last decade is the poor business decisions. One of the few things they have going their way is cap space, and they have plenty. They should be weaponizing cap space, taking short term cap dumps and getting the best picks possible for them. We are really doing vancouver a solid here, hes not a 6m player, and almost nobody is taking cap dumps. If you can charge for something, dont give it away. Also, im not even sure if the pegulas would take on extra cap right now. The johnny boychuk trade is actually pretty shrewd, his cap hit is 6, but it only costs the sabres 1.25m in actual money. The sabres after a decade of mismanagement are finally playing in front of 5000 people in their own barn, even if the sabres tickets are relatively cheap, thats a big hit, im guessing that every penny the sabres spend over the floor right now is coming from the pegulas directly. I do hope they sign off on weaponizing cap, but it better be first round picks.


    Yeah, i agree with pretty much all of that
    Only thing is that it’s gonna be hard to get 1st round picks in these next 2 drafts- especially a team like Vancouver’s Bc it’ll likely be a lottery pick
    Maybe if we took Myers off their hands, and threw them FLA’s 1st (which would obviously be lower in the round), then we could get their 1st (probably top5 protected) and a 2nd from them
    Or something like that
    Tough to say, as I’m sure it could get complicated
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    27 nov. 2021 à 15 h 50
    #11
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    Gonna have to change it to a first in the Myers trade
    28 nov. 2021 à 19 h 38
    #12
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    matt
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    Quoting: Buffalove
    Yeah, i agree with pretty much all of that
    Only thing is that it’s gonna be hard to get 1st round picks in these next 2 drafts- especially a team like Vancouver’s Bc it’ll likely be a lottery pick
    Maybe if we took Myers off their hands, and threw them FLA’s 1st (which would obviously be lower in the round), then we could get their 1st (probably top5 protected) and a 2nd from them
    Or something like that
    Tough to say, as I’m sure it could get complicated


    IDK, RHD are coveted and hes a huge minutes eater. Hes def overpaid but next year hes owed only 5mil and its all base which is appealing if the are looking to get to capfloor and save money. So to me all that offsets it from being a 1st down to a 2nd.
    29 nov. 2021 à 22 h 9
    #13
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    Quoting: mbaer84
    IDK, RHD are coveted and hes a huge minutes eater. Hes def overpaid but next year hes owed only 5mil and its all base which is appealing if the are looking to get to capfloor and save money. So to me all that offsets it from being a 1st down to a 2nd.


    He also has a partial NTC that kicks in after this season
    And just Bc he plays a lot of minutes, doesn’t mean he’s playing well

    Finally, IF they do wanna get rid of him, there’s not many teams that can even consider taking his Cap

    I’ve got no idea what the deal will actually be (IF they make one), but it might be harder to get rid of Myers than u think
     
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