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trade for miller

Créé par: winthecup
Équipe: 2021-22 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 26 nov. 2021
Publié: 26 nov. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
as a leafs fan I hate this, but I could see it happening
Transactions
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  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. Zboril, Jakub
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (BOS)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
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2081 500 000 $78 135 674 $1 956 507 $125 000 $3 364 326 $
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6 666 667 $6 666 667 $
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
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3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
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3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
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UFA - 2
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
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UFA - 5
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725 000 $725 000 $
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
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2 375 000 $2 375 000 $
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800 000 $800 000 $
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4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
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4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance125 000 $$125K)
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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Équipe de réserve
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1 050 000 $1 050 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
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750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
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26 nov. 2021 à 12 h 31
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Replace Zboril with Beecher and it could be reasonable
26 nov. 2021 à 12 h 52
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I’m just really confused why people think he’s the caliber of player to demand this kind of return
26 nov. 2021 à 13 h 34
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I’m just really confused why people think he’s the caliber of player to demand this kind of return


You mean a return of 2 low value pieces, a late first and a late 2nd? Kapanen got a better return than this. Foligno got a better return than this
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26 nov. 2021 à 14 h 7
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You mean a return of 2 low value pieces, a late first and a late 2nd? Kapanen got a better return than this. Foligno got a better return than this


No he didn’t.

There aren’t many players in this league that fetch a 1st and 2nd round pick.
Then your low value pieces are a young d man that just bullied his way into a very deep d group in boston, and is playing awesome, and debrusk, who had a really rough year last year but has a good goal scorers resume and is still 25 (and is playing pretty well this year).

I just can’t really understand what you’re talking about.
26 nov. 2021 à 14 h 12
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VAN could get a better return for Miller than that.
26 nov. 2021 à 16 h 2
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
No he didn’t.

There aren’t many players in this league that fetch a 1st and 2nd round pick.
Then your low value pieces are a young d man that just bullied his way into a very deep d group in boston, and is playing awesome, and debrusk, who had a really rough year last year but has a good goal scorers resume and is still 25 (and is playing pretty well this year).

I just can’t really understand what you’re talking about.


Jake debrusk has 8 goals in his last 57 regular season games. That’s an 11.5 goal pace of 82, pretty good 4th liner/fringe 3rd liner production. He is an RFA after this season with a 4.85 million dollar qualifying offer. He’s a liability, not an asset.

Zboril is a 24 year old (turning 25) dman with 50 NHL games of experience. His good numbers in 6 games this year do not erase the 42 games last year where he was a replacement level player.

At best, these two players are projects with some upside. At worst, it’s a 4.85 million dollar 4th liner and a 7th d-man. Reality is debrusk is probably a decent third line tertiary scorer. Zboril probably a okay 3rd pairing guy. Either way, these two players do NOTHING to move the needle on a JT miller trade. Canucks could and should shoot for more.

Miller is nearly a point per game player, first line winger with good face off ability. Has the best PK impacts on the Canucks (to be fair not saying much) and generates the most offense and on ice xG on the team. When a player like Jason Zucker gets traded for a 1st, a top prospect on Calen Addison, and a roster player like galchenyuk (similar value to debrusk) it’s impossible to argue Miller isn’t worth more.

But I guess I should expect this type of argument from the guy who thinks Quinn Hughes is a 3rd pairing defenseman
26 nov. 2021 à 22 h 15
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Jake debrusk has 8 goals in his last 57 regular season games. That’s an 11.5 goal pace of 82, pretty good 4th liner/fringe 3rd liner production. He is an RFA after this season with a 4.85 million dollar qualifying offer. He’s a liability, not an asset.

Zboril is a 24 year old (turning 25) dman with 50 NHL games of experience. His good numbers in 6 games this year do not erase the 42 games last year where he was a replacement level player.

At best, these two players are projects with some upside. At worst, it’s a 4.85 million dollar 4th liner and a 7th d-man. Reality is debrusk is probably a decent third line tertiary scorer. Zboril probably a okay 3rd pairing guy. Either way, these two players do NOTHING to move the needle on a JT miller trade. Canucks could and should shoot for more.

Miller is nearly a point per game player, first line winger with good face off ability. Has the best PK impacts on the Canucks (to be fair not saying much) and generates the most offense and on ice xG on the team. When a player like Jason Zucker gets traded for a 1st, a top prospect on Calen Addison, and a roster player like galchenyuk (similar value to debrusk) it’s impossible to argue Miller isn’t worth more.

But I guess I should expect this type of argument from the guy who thinks Quinn Hughes is a 3rd pairing defenseman


There is a zucker born every minute.
27 nov. 2021 à 9 h 35
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Jake debrusk has 8 goals in his last 57 regular season games. That’s an 11.5 goal pace of 82, pretty good 4th liner/fringe 3rd liner production. He is an RFA after this season with a 4.85 million dollar qualifying offer. He’s a liability, not an asset.

Zboril is a 24 year old (turning 25) dman with 50 NHL games of experience. His good numbers in 6 games this year do not erase the 42 games last year where he was a replacement level player.

At best, these two players are projects with some upside. At worst, it’s a 4.85 million dollar 4th liner and a 7th d-man. Reality is debrusk is probably a decent third line tertiary scorer. Zboril probably a okay 3rd pairing guy. Either way, these two players do NOTHING to move the needle on a JT miller trade. Canucks could and should shoot for more.

Miller is nearly a point per game player, first line winger with good face off ability. Has the best PK impacts on the Canucks (to be fair not saying much) and generates the most offense and on ice xG on the team. When a player like Jason Zucker gets traded for a 1st, a top prospect on Calen Addison, and a roster player like galchenyuk (similar value to debrusk) it’s impossible to argue Miller isn’t worth more.

But I guess I should expect this type of argument from the guy who thinks Quinn Hughes is a 3rd pairing defenseman


You’re going to start saying, “over the past 57 games,” and in the same post try to tell me that J.T. Miller is a point per game player? He isn’t. He was for one season a few years ago, but he isn’t.

I said Debrusk is playing well. Care to refute with something that’s not on hockeydb?
I said Zboril is playing well. Disagree? That’s fine, but I don’t really give a rats ass about last year, or replacement level garbage.

As for Hughes, he’s actually playing a hair better at five on five this year, but he’s still not a good even strength player.

Have you ever wondered why the more minutes they give him, the worse the team is?
29 nov. 2021 à 17 h 54
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
You’re going to start saying, “over the past 57 games,” and in the same post try to tell me that J.T. Miller is a point per game player? He isn’t. He was for one season a few years ago, but he isn’t.

I said Debrusk is playing well. Care to refute with something that’s not on hockeydb?
I said Zboril is playing well. Disagree? That’s fine, but I don’t really give a rats ass about last year, or replacement level garbage.

As for Hughes, he’s actually playing a hair better at five on five this year, but he’s still not a good even strength player.

Have you ever wondered why the more minutes they give him, the worse the team is?


You know what, good point. Despite DeBrusk only scoring at an 11 goals pace over the 57 games (thats last season and this season combined) he looked really good last night against Vancouver. His trade value is obviously very high, and I doubt Boston wants to part with him or shop him. Canucks probably have to overpay to get him. Maybe the 1st should be going the other way
29 nov. 2021 à 18 h 15
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You know what, good point. Despite DeBrusk only scoring at an 11 goals pace over the 57 games (thats last season and this season combined) he looked really good last night against Vancouver. His trade value is obviously very high, and I doubt Boston wants to part with him or shop him. Canucks probably have to overpay to get him. Maybe the 1st should be going the other way


However long it took you to write that post was wasted time.
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29 nov. 2021 à 18 h 47
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However long it took you to write that post was wasted time.


Thanks, man
 
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