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Créé par: Dekes
Équipe: 2021-22 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 25 nov. 2021
Publié: 25 nov. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
what's fiala's value?
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  1. Beecher, John [Liste de réserve]
  2. DeBrusk, Jake
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (BOS)
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  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
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  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (WPG)
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  1. Clifton, Connor
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (BOS)
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  1. Moore, John
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
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25 nov. 2021 à 20 h 0
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Fiala's value is a top 6 center
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25 nov. 2021 à 20 h 2
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Fiala's value is a top 6 center


Isnt it ironic that Minnesota traded Coyle away for almost no reason and the team rn sure could use him

And the return they got for him wasnt even that good lul

Fenton really screwed the team before getting the boot
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25 nov. 2021 à 20 h 2
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This is a straight up no by Minnesota. They aren't taking on John debrusk contract and you better add a top c prospect to that 1st
25 nov. 2021 à 20 h 2
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Quoting: aadoyle
Isnt it ironic that Minnesota traded Coyle away when they could rn use him

And the return they got for him wasnt even that good lul



Which was why Paul Fenton was fired. You know the worst
25 nov. 2021 à 20 h 5
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Isnt it ironic that Minnesota traded Coyle away for almost no reason and the team rn sure could use him

And the return they got for him wasnt even that good lul

Fenton really screwed the team before getting the boot


I honestly dont think they should be hastily here, they have the high end center prospects who are real close.
25 nov. 2021 à 20 h 11
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Quoting: CAPDumba
This is a straight up no by Minnesota. They aren't taking on John debrusk contract and you better add a top c prospect to that 1st


so maybe like studnicka 2022 1st 2023 2nd? or still more?
25 nov. 2021 à 20 h 27
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This is a straight up no by Minnesota. They aren't taking on John debrusk contract and you better add a top c prospect to that 1st



It’s a straight up no by Boston. That’s an overpay.
25 nov. 2021 à 20 h 28
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Fiala's value is a top 6 center


For Minny maybe, in reality no. C is more valuable than a wing.

If Minny wants a top 6 center for Fiala they add.
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25 nov. 2021 à 20 h 29
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Quoting: Gofnut999
It’s a straight up no by Boston. That’s an overpay.


This isn't Paul Fenton. So you are right, MIN say heck no. Jake won't be more than 4th line winger on wild. Fiala isn't getting traded for less than top 6c
25 nov. 2021 à 20 h 35
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Quoting: CAPDumba
This isn't Paul Fenton. So you are right, MIN say heck no. Jake won't be more than 4th line winger on wild. Fiala isn't getting traded for less than top 6c


minny would have to trade fiala+ for a top 6 C, just like GoFnut said Centers hold much more value then wingers ive seen similiar offers for boeser to what i said studnicka 2022 1st 2023 2nd for fiala and they have been accepted. i still think minny are a 1C a top goalie plus another all star forward away from being a cup contender
25 nov. 2021 à 20 h 38
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minny would have to trade fiala+ for a top 6 C, just like GoFnut said Centers hold much more value then wingers ive seen similiar offers for boeser to what i said studnicka 2022 1st 2023 2nd for fiala and they have been accepted. i still think minny are a 1C a top goalie plus another all star forward away from being a cup contender


I mean I was just replying to him when he was saying Jake d and that package was good
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25 nov. 2021 à 20 h 39
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Quoting: CAPDumba
This isn't Paul Fenton. So you are right, MIN say heck no. Jake won't be more than 4th line winger on wild. Fiala isn't getting traded for less than top 6c



Who do you think Fiala is anyway? Marchand? Lol.


He’s a 2nd line wing.

Fun with numbers. Ready.

Player A career 82 game average.

20g 26A

Player B

22g 22a

Both are on the final year of a contract that makes them an RFA and Player B’s QO is cheaper.

Player A is Fiala. Player B is Debrusk. Imagine Boston asking for a top 6 center for Debrusk. Lol. You want a top 6 center for Fiala you better add to that deal.

The 1st and Beecher is about right in terms of value.
25 nov. 2021 à 20 h 41
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Quoting: Gofnut999
Who do you think Fiala is anyway? Marchand? Lol.


He’s a 2nd line wing.

Fun with numbers. Ready.

Player A 82 game average.

20g 26A

Player B

22g 22a

Both are on the final year of a contract that makes them an RFA and Player B’s QO is cheaper.

Player A is Fiala. Player B is Debrusk. Imagine Boston asking for a top 6 center for Debrusk. Lol. You want a top 6 center for Fiala you better add to that deal.

The 1st and Beecher is about right in terms of value.



Did you really just compare career numbers as if Fiala is the same player now as he was four years ago?

Stupid. He's been a top 50 offensive forward in the entire league for the last 2 years and change while playing with bottom six players.
25 nov. 2021 à 20 h 44
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Did you really just compare career numbers as if Fiala is the same player now as he was four years ago?

Stupid. He's been a top 50 offensive forward in the entire league for the last 2 years and change while playing with bottom six players.



No different than this entire site judging Debrusk by last season only. 🤷🏻‍♂️
25 nov. 2021 à 20 h 45
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Quoting: Gofnut999
No different than this entire site judging Debrusk by last season only. 🤷🏻‍♂️


I'm not this site, and I'm not judging Debrusk, and you're clearly either not knowledgeable enough about Fiala to have an opinion, or you're not interested in having a real discussion about his value because someone else offended you with their opinion of Debrusk.
25 nov. 2021 à 20 h 47
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I'm not this site, and I'm not judging Debrusk, and you're clearly either not knowledgeable enough about Fiala to have an opinion, or you're not interested in having a real discussion about his value because someone else offended you with their opinion of Debrusk.


I know exactly who Fiala is and what he’s worth. Thanks though. 👍🏻
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I mean I was just replying to him when he was saying Jake d and that package was good


oh i see i kinda just threw that package up to get a response on how far off i was. do you have any interest in stud i more see minny as a contender in 2 years once boldy and rossi and addison are more developed and while kaprizov, brodin, dumba are all in the prime of their careers plus JEE, Greenway, kahkonen will be much more refined as well. stud could be your 2/3c depends on who the coach is. I know Evason seems to like his top 3 lines pretty even in skill
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Quoting: Gofnut999
I know exactly who Fiala is and what he’s worth. Thanks though. 👍🏻


Clearly you don't because you just tried comparing him to Jake Debrusk
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Clearly you don't because you just tried comparing him to Jake Debrusk


No, i did not. But thanks for playing. I showed the absurdity of some clown saying a 1st a good prospect and a player of same age, position and career ppg average being a terrible offer. When reality is a 1st and good prospect is FMV. Minny may not want futures for him. That’s fine. But there are not many teams lining up to trade top 6 centers and the ones that are will likely want futures so good luck.
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No, i did not. But thanks for playing. I showed the absurdity of some clown saying a 1st a good prospect and a player of same age, position and career ppg average being a terrible offer. When reality is a 1st and good prospect is FMV. Minny may not want futures for him. That’s fine. But there are not many teams lining up to trade top 6 centers and the ones that are will likely want futures so good luck.


A clown? Clearly you are the one who came in here name calling, and not knowing anything about fiala, or wild wings. So know what the heck you are talking about before calling names like clown because you are the one looking ignorant like you know more than an nhl gm. Yop.. so Jake is a careers ppg now? It's also funny how people use that term so loosely , and casually
25 nov. 2021 à 21 h 19
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oh i see i kinda just threw that package up to get a response on how far off i was. do you have any interest in stud i more see minny as a contender in 2 years once boldy and rossi and addison are more developed and while kaprizov, brodin, dumba are all in the prime of their careers plus JEE, Greenway, kahkonen will be much more refined as well. stud could be your 2/3c depends on who the coach is. I know Evason seems to like his top 3 lines pretty even in skill


Can't really answer this fairly because I don't know. But fiala, and Greenway aren't going to be on wild next year. Cam Talbot will still be G. With Kaapo kahkonen the backup
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For Minny maybe, in reality no. C is more valuable than a wing.

If Minny wants a top 6 center for Fiala they add.


Probably, but they wont move him for less
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A clown? Clearly you are the one who came in here name calling, and not knowing anything about fiala, or wild wings. So know what the heck you are talking about before calling names like clown because you are the one looking ignorant like you know more than an nhl gm. Yop.. so Jake is a careers ppg now? It's also funny how people use that term so loosely , and casually



Think it’s you who doesn’t know who Fiala is. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Kinda funny you saying i don’t know Wild players when you call Jake Debrusk John and don’t know who Beecher is. Lol.

The most comparable player traded as of late was Buchnevich. He went for 2nd and Blais. Take that into consideration. And take the fan goggles off. Objectivity helps. Fiala has a bit more value than Buchie, but not that much.
25 nov. 2021 à 21 h 40
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Probably, but they wont move him for less


Problem is not many teams looking to trade top 6 centers. The ones that will are likely deadline sellers looking for futures not RFA to be.

I know the hot button topic is Van and Miller and Horvat but that’s a lateral to backwards move for Nucks. Not really wise or helpful.
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25 nov. 2021 à 21 h 56
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Fiala's value is a top 6 center


See what you started LOL. Your take was off and you eventually admitted such. Bravo!

Quoting: CAPDumba
This is a straight up no by Minnesota. They aren't taking on John debrusk contract and you better add a top c prospect to that 1st


Understand you not wanting DeBrusk's contract. Assuming you figure on Fiala and Greenway moving on because you can't/don't want to pay them with your buyout obligations coming home to roost. Fair enough. If you trade Fiala it will not be for a 1st AND a top C prospect and if that happens I will be more than ready to admit my mistake.
 
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