Reversing every horrible trade that was ever made by Pierre Dorion

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Créé par: sensonfire

Équipe: 2021-22 Sénateurs d'Ottawa

Date de création initiale: 25 nov. 2021

Publié: 25 nov. 2021

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

If there was another horrible trade that was done by Pierre Dorion, just say what it is and I'll reverse it in a way that is fair and just for every team involved in it. .

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

LISTE DE RÉSERVE		ANS	CAP HIT
Kinnunen, Santtu		1	750 000 $

Transactions

OTT

COL

Matt Duchene

I know the Nashville part of the package was never in Ottawa's possession.

But it's pretty obvious that Nashville was willing to give it up for Kyle Turris.

OTT

Hammond, Andrew

MIN

OTT

Hållander, Filip

PIT

OTT

2018 5th round pick (FLA - #139 - Mikael Hakkarainen)
2019 2nd round pick (FLA - #44 - Jamieson Rees)
2018 4th round pick (VGK - #123 - Jack Gorniak)

FLA

Mike Hoffman trade is made with Florida instead of San Jose.

Instead of getting Mikkel Boedker, we get the picks that Florida sent to San Jose and we don't get humiliated by Doug Wilson.

OTT

Kinnunen, Santtu [Liste de réserve]

FLA

Novak, Jakov [Liste de réserve]

Détails additionnels:

Florida gets Ottawa's 7th round pick for 2018 instead of San Jose's.

As part of the Mike Hoffman trade.

OTT

SJS

Kinnunen, Santtu

OTT

Tullio, Tyler

EDM

OTT

SJS

Daoust, Philippe [Liste de réserve]

OTT

Johansson, Albert

DET

Because San Jose used the 2nd round pick from the second Mike Hoffman trade to get Erik Karlsson, San Jose still owes us a 2nd round pick from 2019.

If Ottawa traded Mike Hoffman to Florida instead of San Jose, then what we would have also received from the Erik Karlsson trade, San Jose's 2nd round pick for 2019 instead along with everything else.

And there would be no condition on the pick.

San Jose would have then needed to find another 2nd round pick from somewhere to get Gustav Nyqust for their 2019 Cup Run.

10.

OTT

CBJ

Abramov, Vitaly [Liste de réserve]
Thomson, Lassi

Détails additionnels:

If the first Matt Duchene trade with Colorado doesn't happen, then the second one with Columbus doesn't happen either.

11.

OTT

Stone, Mark

VGK

Détails additionnels:

Eugene Melnyk decides he doesn't want to get fleeced by Vegas and instead, pays Mark Stone what he's worth.

12.

OTT

Benning, Michael [Liste de réserve]

FLA

Brown, Joshua

13.

OTT

Blomqvist, Joel [Liste de réserve]
Gruden, Jonathan

PIT

Murray, Matt

14.

OTT

Matier, Jack

NSH

Watson, Austin

15.

OTT

Doan, Josh [Liste de réserve]

ARI

Derek Stepan

Rachats de contrats

Bobby Ryan: 3 583 333 $
Dion Phaneuf: 354 167 $

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	69 973 258 $	0 $	5 957 500 $	11 526 742 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Tkachuk, Brady 8 330 674 $8 330 674 $ AG UFA - 7	Norris, Joshua 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) C UFA - 1	Stone, Mark 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ AD NMC UFA - 6
Stützle, Tim 925 000 $925 000 $ (2 500 000 $$2M) C UFA - 2	Paul, Nicholas 749 250 $749 250 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Batherson, Drake 4 975 000 $4 975 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 6
Formenton, Alex 747 500 $747 500 $ (107 500 $$108K) AG RFA - 1	Tierney, Chris 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ C UFA - 1	Brown, Connor 3 600 000 $3 600 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
	Gambrell, Dylan 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ C UFA - 1	Ennis, Tyler 900 000 $900 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
Sanford, Zachary 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Chabot, Thomas 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ DG UFA - 7	Zaitsev, Nikita 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 3	Gustavsson, Filip 787 500 $787 500 $ G UFA - 2
Girard, Samuel 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 6	Zub, Artem 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Hammond, Andrew 750 000 $750 000 $ G UFA - 1
	Mete, Victor 1 200 000 $1 200 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1
Holden, Nick 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ DG UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Del Zotto, Michael 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DG UFA - 2	Byram, Bowen 894 167 $894 167 $ (2 500 000 $$2M) DG/DD RFA - 2	White, Colin 4 750 000 $4 750 000 $ C, AD UFA - 4
Kelly, Parker 726 667 $726 667 $ AG RFA - 1		Pinto, Shane 925 000 $925 000 $ (600 000 $$600K) C RFA - 2
Shaw, Logan 725 000 $725 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1

25 nov. 2021 à 13 h 46

Lenny7

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The issue is, if you keep Duchene, Stone and Zibanejad, I can't imagine Byram, Stuetzle are there...

25 nov. 2021 à 14 h 0

sensonfire

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Quoting: Lenny7

The issue is, if you keep Duchene, Stone and Zibanejad, I can't imagine Byram, Stuetzle are there...

1. Ottawa never trades for Duchene in this scenario.

2. We would get Stutzle because he was selected with San Jose's 1st round pick, not Ottawa's.

3. We still would tank in 2017-2018 and 2018-2019.

Mika Z and Mark Stone would be unable to stop it and we would still have the 4th overall pick for 2019.

25 nov. 2021 à 14 h 17

Pierre_from_Orleans

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If you don't trade Z for Brass we likely wouldn't have went to the Conference Finals and you don't have Gus or JBD.

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25 nov. 2021 à 15 h 10

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Quoting: Pierre_from_Orleans

If you don't trade Z for Brass we likely wouldn't have went to the Conference Finals and you don't have Gus or JBD.

After looking at the two Brassard trades in a vacuum more closely, this is how Ottawa did:

Mika Zibanejad
Vincent Dunn
33rd overall pick for 2018
64th overall pick for 2018

for

Derick Brassard's contributions to the Ottawa Senators between July, 2016 and February, 2018
Ian Cole
Filip Gustavsson
22nd overall pick for 2018
83rd overall pick for 2019
194th overall pick for 2018

I would say Pierre Dorion made up for the Zibanejad trade, at least somewhat.

But, you're absolutely right.

I'll erase the Zibanejad trade

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25 nov. 2021 à 15 h 48

Pierre_from_Orleans

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Quoting: sensonfire

I was looking at the trades earlier and saw Vincent Dunn.... had to look a little deeper, that's not Vince Dunn of the Kraken haha.

But, yeah, I like Z, and wasn't a huge fan of the trade at the time but I think it worked out for both teams.

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